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NobleTeam360 said:
At this point, I'm just praying that Cyberpunk 2077 isn't delayed into 2021.

Low key, I want it to get delayed to see Ryuu's response after his little tirade on FF 16.  



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Just a little Forza Horizon plug here. I'm curious to see what they do for 5 to keep the series fresh. I personally don't get sick of games for the most part if they are quality, but I can see where people might feel some fatigue. I'm hoping 5 having more than 2 years off is going to help. Brand new setting I feel is an absolute must. 

This guy reviewed the recent Horizon games I believe. Great reviewer for IGN surprisingly. 



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shikamaru317 said:
Ryuu96 said:

I give up, I'm not expecting it in September either. Microsoft is waiting for Sony, Sony is waiting for Microsoft, at this point the only thing that will force their hands is retailers asking them what the f*ck the price is so they can allocate stock.

In fairness, MS needs to wait on Sony. With Halo delayed, they can't afford to have Sony undercut Series X pricing with their digital PS5, they have to either match the digital PS5's price or undercut it to compete, even with Series S taken into account. 

Yeah, I realized the discless PS5 is the same specs as PS5, but no disc (should be obvious lol), unlike Series x. I wonder how much a disc drive would be able cost for Sony. I'm still betting on PS5 - 500, Discless PS5 - 400, but maybe 450? If disc less is 400, I don't see how MS could match on Series X. Series S at 399 or 349 (299 seems really low, but idk). 

I see where MS has to undercut Sony on price as you talked about lack of Halo. This is going to be interesting. I'm hoping... we get info by end of September. 



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Spade said:
NobleTeam360 said:
At this point, I'm just praying that Cyberpunk 2077 isn't delayed into 2021.

Low key, I want it to get delayed to see Ryuu's response after his little tirade on FF 16.  

Who needs cyberpunk when you got yakuza amirite



jason1637 said:
Spade said:

Low key, I want it to get delayed to see Ryuu's response after his little tirade on FF 16.  

Who needs cyberpunk when you got yakuza amirite

You not wrong pimp! 

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shikamaru317 said:
Spade said:

Yeah, I realized the discless PS5 is the same specs as PS5, but no disc (should be obvious lol), unlike Series x. I wonder how much a disc drive would be able cost for Sony. I'm still betting on PS5 - 500, Discless PS5 - 400, but maybe 450? If disc less is 400, I don't see how MS could match on Series X. Series S at 399 or 349 (299 seems really low, but idk). 

I see where MS has to undercut Sony on price as you talked about lack of Halo. This is going to be interesting. I'm hoping... we get info by end of September. 

MS can probably afford to hit $400 on Series X if they need to.  The bill of materials on Series X is supposedly somewhere between $460 and $510, if it's closer to the lower half of that range I think they can afford to take the hit and sell it at $400, or at least $450. That being said, if Dusk Golem is to be believed, Sony is not going to be aiming for $400 on PS5, he said he has every reason to believe that Sony will be selling at cost just like they did on PS4, and with shipping costs factored in, that most likely means $450 discless, $500 disc drive for PS5 is what they need to sell at to break even. Meanwhile he said he believes that MS is willing to sell at a loss in order to boost the potential subscriber base for Gamepass.

gotcha, yeah I just didn't know the price discrepancy of a disc drive. Is it true that he or a mod in era that gave negative PS news got de modded or something? One of those insiders were right about a lot of things, and then now it looks like they got viliainized. @Ryuu might know too. 



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shikamaru317 said:
Spade said:

Just a little Forza Horizon plug here. I'm curious to see what they do for 5 to keep the series fresh. I personally don't get sick of games for the most part if they are quality, but I can see where people might feel some fatigue. I'm hoping 5 having more than 2 years off is going to help. Brand new setting I feel is an absolute must. 

This guy reviewed the recent Horizon games I believe. Great reviewer for IGN surprisingly. 

5 needs to be set in Japan. I don't think there is a single other country that is more requested for Horizon than Japan. A Horizon 5 set in Japan even has the potential to sell some Xbox consoles in Japan, which would greatly help with MS getting 3rd party JP support this gen, especially if MS can swing a few JP exclusives as well. 

As for how to keep the series fresh, other than a new setting, I'm not really sure. Every Horizon sequel so far has added a major feature. Horizon 2 added off-roading. Horizon 3 added event blueprints. Horizon 4 added seasons and houses you could buy. I'm not sure what the hook would be for Horizon 5. Real-time weather and seasons would be cool, as opposed to the more static versions we've gotten in earlier games. Like actually seeing the seasons change slowly overtime,  seeing the trees change and then lose their leaves, seeing snow fall and slowly accumulate, instead of just being there when the season switches to Winter. I'm not sure if that is feasible though, maybe if they relied heavily on the cloud or something. 

Do you think there would be license issues like with music they would chose for Japan, or maybe certain car manufacturers? Again idk.. maybe they think Japan would sell bad for them If it's not Japan, what about Canada? I'd be cool with that. But number one for me would be Japan also, I just don't see them doing it sadly :/ I hope it's not in the UK again; would rather they come back to America then... Or Canada. 

And in terms of features, yeah that's a tough one. I doubt they would do something like Boat racing (thinking of Sonic transformed right now lol). Get the dynamic weather from Flight sim jk lol, it's hard to think of the next big pull they would do to keep the series fresh. Would be nice if they brought back the rivals from 1, take a break from the music festival. 



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Some good games in that sale. I think I’ll buy Vanquish, Ass Creed Odyssey season pass, and Bioshock Collection. Was interested in Maneater but not enough of a sale.

Also some MS games on there I want to finish, thanks GamePass.



Nothing I really want on this sale but I have some money on my gf's account that expires next month.
I can't use it to pre-order Series X (as I have double the money on my account and I can't transfer it to that account) so I may have to buy something...

Maybe CoD MW2 campaign and Wolfenstein 2 Complete Edition



$5 for Titanfall 2 deluxe edition is a damn steal. Bought that so far.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.