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Tiktok is probably a better buy for MS and I like the app so I wouldn't care if they bought that instead of WB.



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- I really hope MS doesn't buy TikTok. First of all, they are known to not understand how to run anything that is not enterprise. Almost every consumer oriented service they bought, ended up getting shut down afterwards or left on it's own (Mixer, Skype, Windows Phone, etc.). So if anyone wants TikTok to die, probably should wish for MS to buy them. The second problem comes with the fact that they are not buying the whole business, only part of it. And it look like it won't be split, so MS will receive a lot of problems related to how synchronize with the China-owned part of TikTok. Third problem is that it looks like it would be a very expensive investment. And the fourth problem is that to be quite honest, this whole situation with TikTok is kinda shitty from the fair competition side of things. US government just uses "ban" threats over some non-confirmed accusations of TikTok sending user data to China to literally steal a part of business from Chinese company. Not looking good especially considering how American companies have been violating the user privacy and sending their data to American intelligence agencies. And yet, no other country has voiced a proposal to buy a part of Facebook threatening to ban it. I just don't wanna MS to get involved with this shitty political stuff. I think Microsoft can and should always abide the rules of fair-play in business. But it seems like the potential increase of cloud services marketshare is way too hard to pass.
- With Sony not announcing PS5 price, looks like they are forcing MS to go first after all. Won't be surprised if Sony announces PS5 price at Gamescom. On the positive side, lots of moneyhats being announced at State of Play seems unlikely now. So, as with price, probably at Gamescom.
- MS has an upper hand in terms of accessories supports, that's great but it was expected. Sony just abusing their brand power to make everyone buy the same accessories once again. Unfortunately, doesn't seem like a huge advantage for MS, as the internet is already picking off - "it's the right thing, give a true next-gen feeling" excuse.
- New MS Store looks good, but MS needs to put the platform availability on the first "Game Details" page. I don't see this information being present right now which is not really good considering that some of the games will be Series X only. This information is very important to be very clear in order to avoid any potential backlash like "I bought this game, but it doesn't work on my Xbox".



 

TikTok is just Vine 2.0, and they are both stupid platforms. TikTok is just a more popular version of Vine, they are both focused on stupid, short videos. Short form videos are a fad and like all fads it will die eventually.

Like Slade, I would much rather MS acquire WB. Not only would WB be huge for Gamepass, but they need to be saved from EA, Acti, Take-Two, and Tencent.



derpysquirtle64 said:

- I really hope MS doesn't buy TikTok. First of all, they are known to not understand how to run anything that is not enterprise. Almost every consumer oriented service they bought, ended up getting shut down afterwards or left on it's own (Mixer, Skype, Windows Phone, etc.). So if anyone wants TikTok to die, probably should wish for MS to buy them.

The second problem comes with the fact that they are not buying the whole business, only part of it. And it look like it won't be split, so MS will receive a lot of problems related to how synchronize with the China-owned part of TikTok. Third problem is that it looks like it would be a very expensive investment.

And the fourth problem is that to be quite honest, this whole situation with TikTok is kinda shitty from the fair competition side of things. US government just uses "ban" threats over some non-confirmed accusations of TikTok sending user data to China to literally steal a part of business from Chinese company. Not looking good especially considering how American companies have been violating the user privacy and sending their data to American intelligence agencies. And yet, no other country has voiced a proposal to buy a part of Facebook threatening to ban it. I just don't wanna MS to get involved with this shitty political stuff. I think Microsoft can and should always abide the rules of fair-play in business. But it seems like the potential increase of cloud services marketshare is way too hard to pass.

Yeah, this is very quickly becoming a PR disaster, I want Microsoft to back out of the deal now, they're just looking like a stooge for the US Government, folk will wonder how that is any different from ByteDance's relationship with China.

But that $$$.

And I'm a selfish gamer who wants that acquisition money to go towards WBIE. I think WBIE would be better for long term, TikTok could be a fad that fades, also Microsoft sucks at consumer markets except Xbox.

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shikamaru317 said:

TikTok is just Vine 2.0, and they are both stupid platforms. TikTok is just a more popular version of Vine, they are both focused on stupid, short videos. Short form videos are a fad and like all fads it will die eventually.

Like Slade, I would much rather MS acquire WB. Not only would WB be huge for Gamepass, but they need to be saved from EA, Acti, Take-Two, and Tencent.

Tbf Vine was 6 second videos while tik toks can go up to 60 seconda and the app was formerly called musickly and rebranded to tiktok. They've been able to grow and stay relevant for the last ~6 years and MS doesn't have a successful social media platform (LinkedIn excluded) Once they find a way to monetize tik tok they'll see a better return from tiktok than WB especially if they dont get the license. 

They're better off poaching talent from WB like they've been doing with the initiative.



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Sucks that Kingdom Come and DMC are leaving Gamepass soon. I was waiting on Series X to play Kingdom Come, since the base XB1 version is pretty much unplayable.



Verified user on Era mentions that FF16 is "full timed exclusive" and sooner than people think.

Too much smoke Tbh, looks for sure to be timed exclusive to PS5, I'm guessing for a year.



Ryuu96 said:
Verified user on Era mentions that FF16 is "full timed exclusive" and sooner than people think.

Too much smoke Tbh, looks for sure to be timed exclusive to PS5, I'm guessing for a year.

What does full timed exclusive mean? lol 

Another lame moneyhat. Hopefully it's only a year. 




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Spade said:
Ryuu96 said:
Verified user on Era mentions that FF16 is "full timed exclusive" and sooner than people think.

Too much smoke Tbh, looks for sure to be timed exclusive to PS5, I'm guessing for a year.

What does full timed exclusive mean? lol 

Another lame moneyhat. Hopefully it's only a year. 

No PC release at launch either, like FF7 Remake. So coming to PC and Xbox Series a year later most likely.

The fact that he says it's releasing sooner than people expect is worrying for sure, makes it sound like it's a 2021 release. MS's AAA lineup for 2021 is looking quite poor currently, most of their AAA 1st party games are looking like 2022 or later. MS needs more AAA than just Forza Horizon 5 for 2021, if Sony has 3 AAA's for 2021, Tokyo Ghostwire, FF16, and Horizon: Forbidden West. Time to moneyhat a 3rd party AAA of your own for 2021 Phil!



shikamaru317 said:
Spade said:

What does full timed exclusive mean? lol 

Another lame moneyhat. Hopefully it's only a year. 

No PC release at launch either, like FF7 Remake. So coming to PC and Xbox Series a year later most likely.

The fact that he says it's releasing sooner than people expect is worrying for sure, makes it sound like it's a 2021 release. MS's AAA lineup for 2021 is looking quite poor currently, most of their AAA 1st party games are looking like 2022 or later. MS needs more AAA than just Forza Horizon 5 for 2021, if Sony has 3 AAA's for 2021, Tokyo Ghostwire, FF16, and Horizon: Forbidden West. Time to moneyhat a 3rd party AAA of your own for 2021 Phil!

Is GTA 6 rumored to be timed? I read that in another thread. This is what I get for leaving Empire.  

I think R&C would be 2021 as well right? 




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