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ice said:
I’m upset I can’t look at achievements using the Xbox app 😔 it was way better than using the console idk why they removed it.

Exactly the way I feel. Too bad I can't roll back to previous version. Seems like lots of features were removed in this new app. On the other hand, streaming is there but I would need a gamepad mount for that.



 

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Spade said:

ATTENTION!!!

A new member to the Xbox family needs YOUR help. @Mike321 has plans of pre-ordering a Series S tonight! They go live in his great country at midnight. Need you all to wish him luck and pray to the Xbox gods he gets his console. 

To Mike! 

Mike has prayed for me many times, it’s only right that I return the favor 🙏



i'm just here to say after Phil's comments about wanting more content that can appeal to everyone that Viva Pinata could literally have been Xbox's Animal Crossing and they're over here sleeping on it and i'll never let that go until we get a new one, it's literally perfect for gamepass and even moreso than Banjo Kazooie imo



FloatingWaffles said:
i'm just here to say after Phil's comments about wanting more content that can appeal to everyone that Viva Pinata could literally have been Xbox's Animal Crossing and they're over here sleeping on it and i'll never let that go until we get a new one, it's literally perfect for gamepass and even moreso than Banjo Kazooie imo

This is facts! Would be a awesome time to bring back Viva! 



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Series S and X are still available to preorder in my country, since September 23rd.



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Phil: We want more E content

Everyone on the Internet: Xbox only make kiddy games with cartoon graphics we want more mature games



smroadkill15 said:

My favorite quote from the Phil Spencer interview:

"Yeah, it's totally up to each studio, and I know some people that, when they've looked at the model around Game Pass, have assumed that Game Pass is actually a better model, if there's more Games-as-a-Service games in the subscription. I actually argue the opposite and believe the opposite. The last thing I want in Game Pass is that there's one game that everybody is playing forever, that's not a gaming content subscription, that's a one-game subscription, that's WoW, right? So for us, having games in the subscription that have a beginning, middle, and end, and then they go on to play the next game, maybe those are single-player narrative-driven games, I just finished Tell Me Why, an amazing game from DontNod, those games can be really strong for us in the subscription. In many ways, they're actually better than one or two games that are soaking up all the engagement in the subscription. I want a long tail of a lot of games that people are playing, and I think the diversity of online multiplayer versus single-player, we have to support the diversity there, and that's my goal. If anything I'd like to see more single-player games from our first-party, just because that over time we've kind of grown organically to be more multiplayer-driven as an organisation."

Remember how so many Game Pass naysayers kept saying; "Xbox only wants gaas games blah blah" Phil just shut that shit down. 

Well some people, like me, think that it will lead to more GaaS games nd a lot of Low to Middle budget games, less ambitious, but easy to use. like some Netflix series does. And I think it's not due to chance that he says that now, when some people say they fear this.

When possibly (hope I'm wrong tbh) this becomes a reality, he can change slightly his PR accordingly to Microsoft strategy. Like the "we don't want to take away games frome gamers" became after the Bethesda'as purchase " we don't take away games from custormers since you can play Xbox everywhere". However, that's exactly what's he's doing for a playstattion and nintendo gamer like me.

Like i said, may be wrong, but the thing is not to take everything looking at the market as it is today, but at how you think Microsoft want it to be in 10 or 15 years. That's not a lot of time for sur corporations, but fur us, it is.

And it's not to fuel a console war thing, it's the way you see it impact yourself in your gamer's habit.



Flouff said:
smroadkill15 said:

My favorite quote from the Phil Spencer interview:

"Yeah, it's totally up to each studio, and I know some people that, when they've looked at the model around Game Pass, have assumed that Game Pass is actually a better model, if there's more Games-as-a-Service games in the subscription. I actually argue the opposite and believe the opposite. The last thing I want in Game Pass is that there's one game that everybody is playing forever, that's not a gaming content subscription, that's a one-game subscription, that's WoW, right? So for us, having games in the subscription that have a beginning, middle, and end, and then they go on to play the next game, maybe those are single-player narrative-driven games, I just finished Tell Me Why, an amazing game from DontNod, those games can be really strong for us in the subscription. In many ways, they're actually better than one or two games that are soaking up all the engagement in the subscription. I want a long tail of a lot of games that people are playing, and I think the diversity of online multiplayer versus single-player, we have to support the diversity there, and that's my goal. If anything I'd like to see more single-player games from our first-party, just because that over time we've kind of grown organically to be more multiplayer-driven as an organisation."

Remember how so many Game Pass naysayers kept saying; "Xbox only wants gaas games blah blah" Phil just shut that shit down. 

Well some people, like me, think that it will lead to more GaaS games nd a lot of Low to Middle budget games, less ambitious, but easy to use. like some Netflix series does. And I think it's not due to chance that he says that now, when some people say they fear this.

When possibly (hope I'm wrong tbh) this becomes a reality, he can change slightly his PR accordingly to Microsoft strategy. Like the "we don't want to take away games frome gamers" became after the Bethesda'as purchase " we don't take away games from custormers since you can play Xbox everywhere". However, that's exactly what's he's doing for a playstattion and nintendo gamer like me.

Like i said, may be wrong, but the thing is not to take everything looking at the market as it is today, but at how you think Microsoft want it to be in 10 or 15 years. That's not a lot of time for sur corporations, but fur us, it is.

And it's not to fuel a console war thing, it's the way you see it impact yourself in your gamer's habit.

Well to be honest MS isn't talking away games from you because you are a Nintendo or PS gamer instead you always have the choice to become a MS gamer as well.  That choice is yours because just like you chose Nintendo or PS for their games, MS is giving you a reason to also be a MS gamer. As a gamer you have to make choices, do I support this platform or do I not  As a company, MS is trying to build a catalog of developers that gamers want to play their games.  Whether they purchase them or build them it really does not matter because if a company is for sell they could always just let the competition get them and be like, Dam, we missed that opportunity.  It really do not matter what gamers fear or not fear, its up to MS to execute.  A service can be easily sub to and dropped so having just one type of game never really made sense.  GaaS games do not need a content service like Gamepass because they are their own service.  Low and middle budget games will not keep the subs going.  This is why when people make these statements it doesn't make sense.  Its as if people cannot just drop the service if all it brings is low quality games or something along those lines.  Instead the service has to have a broad appeal with all those types of games because what keeps a service with large sub base is diversity of content..

The thing is the market isn't going to stand still.  Whether its MS, Apple, Google, Amazon, you name it, they are coming and the landscape we know today isn't going to be here in 10 to 15 years no matter how much gamers want to hold on to how it is today.  Everyone better saddle up because its going to be like the wild wild west and the company with the better vision will be the ones who make it to the next stage.



Machiavellian said:
Flouff said:

Well some people, like me, think that it will lead to more GaaS games nd a lot of Low to Middle budget games, less ambitious, but easy to use. like some Netflix series does. And I think it's not due to chance that he says that now, when some people say they fear this.

When possibly (hope I'm wrong tbh) this becomes a reality, he can change slightly his PR accordingly to Microsoft strategy. Like the "we don't want to take away games frome gamers" became after the Bethesda'as purchase " we don't take away games from custormers since you can play Xbox everywhere". However, that's exactly what's he's doing for a playstattion and nintendo gamer like me.

Like i said, may be wrong, but the thing is not to take everything looking at the market as it is today, but at how you think Microsoft want it to be in 10 or 15 years. That's not a lot of time for sur corporations, but fur us, it is.

And it's not to fuel a console war thing, it's the way you see it impact yourself in your gamer's habit.

Well to be honest MS isn't talking away games from you because you are a Nintendo or PS gamer instead you always have the choice to become a MS gamer as well.  That choice is yours because just like you chose Nintendo or PS for their games, MS is giving you a reason to also be a MS gamer. As a gamer you have to make choices, do I support this platform or do I not  As a company, MS is trying to build a catalog of developers that gamers want to play their games.  Whether they purchase them or build them it really does not matter because if a company is for sell they could always just let the competition get them and be like, Dam, we missed that opportunity.  It really do not matter what gamers fear or not fear, its up to MS to execute.  A service can be easily sub to and dropped so having just one type of game never really made sense.  GaaS games do not need a content service like Gamepass because they are their own service.  Low and middle budget games will not keep the subs going.  This is why when people make these statements it doesn't make sense.  Its as if people cannot just drop the service if all it brings is low quality games or something along those lines.  Instead the service has to have a broad appeal with all those types of games because what keeps a service with large sub base is diversity of content..

The thing is the market isn't going to stand still.  Whether its MS, Apple, Google, Amazon, you name it, they are coming and the landscape we know today isn't going to be here in 10 to 15 years no matter how much gamers want to hold on to how it is today.  Everyone better saddle up because its going to be like the wild wild west and the company with the better vision will be the ones who make it to the next stage.

It seems we can agree that things are not black or white, not as simple as they are discussed, and yes, may be we are living a big change in how games are used, and Microsoft is doing maybe the right ting for them. If it will be goods for games quality wise, or not, only time can tell. I just tend to be careful when people say Gamepass is good because it's cheap, if it's a way to acquire a market like Amazon did, with comes with pros but a lot of cons too, or Netflix, which rises their price in some markets more and more often, as their productions decline in quality but not in quantity.



Flouff said:
Machiavellian said:

Well to be honest MS isn't talking away games from you because you are a Nintendo or PS gamer instead you always have the choice to become a MS gamer as well.  That choice is yours because just like you chose Nintendo or PS for their games, MS is giving you a reason to also be a MS gamer. As a gamer you have to make choices, do I support this platform or do I not  As a company, MS is trying to build a catalog of developers that gamers want to play their games.  Whether they purchase them or build them it really does not matter because if a company is for sell they could always just let the competition get them and be like, Dam, we missed that opportunity.  It really do not matter what gamers fear or not fear, its up to MS to execute.  A service can be easily sub to and dropped so having just one type of game never really made sense.  GaaS games do not need a content service like Gamepass because they are their own service.  Low and middle budget games will not keep the subs going.  This is why when people make these statements it doesn't make sense.  Its as if people cannot just drop the service if all it brings is low quality games or something along those lines.  Instead the service has to have a broad appeal with all those types of games because what keeps a service with large sub base is diversity of content..

The thing is the market isn't going to stand still.  Whether its MS, Apple, Google, Amazon, you name it, they are coming and the landscape we know today isn't going to be here in 10 to 15 years no matter how much gamers want to hold on to how it is today.  Everyone better saddle up because its going to be like the wild wild west and the company with the better vision will be the ones who make it to the next stage.

It seems we can agree that things are not black or white, not as simple as they are discussed, and yes, may be we are living a big change in how games are used, and Microsoft is doing maybe the right ting for them. If it will be goods for games quality wise, or not, only time can tell. I just tend to be careful when people say Gamepass is good because it's cheap, if it's a way to acquire a market like Amazon did, with comes with pros but a lot of cons too, or Netflix, which rises their price in some markets more and more often, as their productions decline in quality but not in quantity.

The thing is Gamepass isn't cheap and it makes you pay upfront to access the selection of games MS has on the service.  At the end of the year you still pay over hundred bucks if you are paying 10 to 15 bones.  That's billions for MS depending on the number of subs.  That money pays for development because MS gets that every year without having to sell a single title.  This is why a lot of companies have gone to a sub service for their software because of the upfront cost it provides to development.  The only con I see is that if MS doesn't deliver, someone else will.  I am not married to any company but to games, so if the spice doesn't flow, I go somewhere else.  I really do not need to fear what MS is doing because the market will weed out the chaff and the good will rise up.  So far, I like MS strategy and Phil pretty much stated what I felt the way the service will work, so now its execution time.  Gamers cannot live in fear because change is coming, so instead we just support the system that better caters to our needs with our money. If production decline so will subs, that is how it works so why fear something like that.