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The only way the will ever be a pro model is if they employ the same strategy as the GB to GBC where the pro model is treated as a successor to extend the life of the platform and even then the GBC came 9 years after the GB's launch so such an approach if it was used would not see a pro model for a good number of years so either way no successor or pro model is coming in 2021 if anything we likely won't see any release of such until 2023.



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Slownenberg said:
zorg1000 said:

They are not releasing a successor after only 4-4.5 years, Switch isnt Wii U.

Just because AAA support will drop (already low to begin with) does not mean support will be bad.

The majority of support comes from indies, Japanese games, previous gen ports/remasters, retro titles, family/casual titles, free to play titles, etc. In other words A-AA titles and these type of games arent at risk of leaving by any notable amount.

How many day and date AAA games have come to Switch? Most are very late, outsourced ports so Switch could still get some downported PS4/XBO games.

Yeah agreed. Expect Switch 2 in 2023, Nintendo isn't gonna try to kill off loads of free profit by releasing a new system well before Switch is ready to go. AAA support is on Switch is essentially nonexistent except a handful of like 4 to 8 year old games. So Switch won't be losing any AAA support from the new consoles.  A-AA support will continue because of Switch's massive install base and generally those games don't use the most amazing graphics currently possible.

Also, it wouldn't make sense to make a 2021 Switch 2 to garner 3rd party support from PS5/XboxSeries games because a Switch that releases in 2021 wouldn't be strong enough to even handle downgraded ports from those systems. A 2023 Switch just might be able to handle decent graphically downgraded versions of games that come out on systems that came out 3 years prior.

I think a good strategy for the next gen for Nintendo is to bring a system that has enough power to do a good job of handling downgraded version of PS5/XboxSeries games so that 3rd parties could port over new games to the Switch simply by making reasonable compromises. With all the money they'll make off this gen, they could possibly put out a system at that power level, sell it at a small loss at the start instead of a small profit in order to still make it affordable, pick up way more AAA 3rd party support, and continue the success of the Switch. Then again maybe they like the fact that first party sales dominate their system haha.

Even if Switch 2 isnt able to get much of the AAA PS5/XSX games it will be able to get ports of a ton of the PS4/XBO games that skipped Switch 1.



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I think a Pro model will release in 2021. But it'll just be a different version of the same system, like the Lite. It isn't gonna run different games, that would be stupid. It'll just run the current games with better resolution or better fps. I could totally see them dropping the Lite and OG Switch to like $180 and $240 or something and then coming out with the Pro at $300 so they maintain that higher price point for people who are willing to pay a premium to get the best version (and because there are always a certain amount of nintendo fans who will double dip on the same system to get the different versions).



zorg1000 said:

Even if Switch 2 isnt able to get much of the AAA PS5/XSX games it will be able to get ports of a ton of the PS4/XBO games that skipped Switch 1.

Yeah true. Rather than seeing a bunch of Wii U to Switch ports, we'll probably be seeing a bunch of PS4/XBO to Switch 2 ports. Switch 2 should be able to run those games with zero compromises.



Slownenberg said:
zorg1000 said:

Even if Switch 2 isnt able to get much of the AAA PS5/XSX games it will be able to get ports of a ton of the PS4/XBO games that skipped Switch 1.

Yeah true. Rather than seeing a bunch of Wii U to Switch ports, we'll probably be seeing a bunch of PS4/XBO to Switch 2 ports. Switch 2 should be able to run those games with zero compromises.

I was thinking more like a natural progression of all the PS3/360 ports Swotch gets.



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Slownenberg said:
I think a Pro model will release in 2021. But it'll just be a different version of the same system, like the Lite. It isn't gonna run different games, that would be stupid. It'll just run the current games with better resolution or better fps. I could totally see them dropping the Lite and OG Switch to like $180 and $240 or something and then coming out with the Pro at $300 so they maintain that higher price point for people who are willing to pay a premium to get the best version (and because there are always a certain amount of nintendo fans who will double dip on the same system to get the different versions).

The's no point for that the Lite was not just to be a cheaper version it was to open the Switch up to something handhelds have had over consoles for decades and that's being more than one per household this is why a portable only version was made as more than one person in the house can be on a Switch which is especially important for families with kids or households with more than one person who games in general.

A pro version in 2021 offers no such benefits it does not open any new strategy for Nintendo nor are the people who pay premium prices the people Nintendo were aiming for to begin with that crowd wouldn't be interested in a Switch Pro if they don't already have one as the platform was never about what they're looking for.



All this talk about more powerful Switch SKUs reminded me of last year and the rumor that Nintendo was going to launch two new Switch SKUs in 2019. While Nintendo ended up doing that, all the people who were shouting "Switch Pro" got slapped in the face because Nintendo didn't release a more powerful SKU. To add insult to injury, Nintendo didn't even bother to issue a price cut for Switch despite the console already being 2.5 years old.

But Nintendo's actions as well as sales charts aren't going to change people's minds. They still don't understand that Nintendo isn't taking the Sony/Microsoft approach of moving consoles ever closer to be like PCs, so they keep expecting and predicting Nintendo to follow the image of PCs and smartphones (smart devices are PCs too). You should expect Nintendo to take cues from the most successful console manufacturer and not somebody else.



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zorg1000 said:
Slownenberg said:

Yeah agreed. Expect Switch 2 in 2023, Nintendo isn't gonna try to kill off loads of free profit by releasing a new system well before Switch is ready to go. AAA support is on Switch is essentially nonexistent except a handful of like 4 to 8 year old games. So Switch won't be losing any AAA support from the new consoles.  A-AA support will continue because of Switch's massive install base and generally those games don't use the most amazing graphics currently possible.

Also, it wouldn't make sense to make a 2021 Switch 2 to garner 3rd party support from PS5/XboxSeries games because a Switch that releases in 2021 wouldn't be strong enough to even handle downgraded ports from those systems. A 2023 Switch just might be able to handle decent graphically downgraded versions of games that come out on systems that came out 3 years prior.

I think a good strategy for the next gen for Nintendo is to bring a system that has enough power to do a good job of handling downgraded version of PS5/XboxSeries games so that 3rd parties could port over new games to the Switch simply by making reasonable compromises. With all the money they'll make off this gen, they could possibly put out a system at that power level, sell it at a small loss at the start instead of a small profit in order to still make it affordable, pick up way more AAA 3rd party support, and continue the success of the Switch. Then again maybe they like the fact that first party sales dominate their system haha.

Even if Switch 2 isnt able to get much of the AAA PS5/XSX games it will be able to get ports of a ton of the PS4/XBO games that skipped Switch 1.

I don't see an if in that scenario. The switch already shows what it can do and the gap is gonna be even smaller for the 10th gen.



Nu-13 said:
zorg1000 said:

Even if Switch 2 isnt able to get much of the AAA PS5/XSX games it will be able to get ports of a ton of the PS4/XBO games that skipped Switch 1.

I don't see an if in that scenario. The switch already shows what it can do and the gap is gonna be even smaller for the 10th gen.

Let me rephrase, even if 3rd parties choose not to bring AAA PS5/XSX games to NSW2, they will release a ton of PS4/XBO ports.



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So your saying sales will slow to a trickle and they will go PC.