Forums - Website Topics - Can't we just get rid of this like/dislike system ?

Please not or I have to see bad comments on top of the comment section from time to time. I agree that up to 4x the voting power is stupid but when I check all the down-voted comments in the news section, most just "deserved" to get down-voted. I don't see comments which should be even up-voted but are down-voted instead.

But the number of votes for or against a comment shouldn't look higher or lower just because of people who pay money voting for it. Give them other rights on this forum but not something like that,



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I'd sooner look at ways the system can be improved, rather than scrap it altogether. For example, increasing the amount needed for a comment to be hidden. Or removing the anonymity attached to up and downvoting.

The theory behind the increased voting power for people who donate to the site is that said people are more likely to be good, upstanding members of the community who want to improve the site, and so are likely to only downvote posts that are genuinely deserving of it. Not everyone, sure, but the vast majority I'd hope.



Machina said:
I'd sooner look at ways the system can be improved, rather than scrap it altogether. For example, increasing the amount needed for a comment to be hidden. Or removing the anonymity attached to up and downvoting.

The theory behind the increased voting power for people who donate to the site is that said people are more likely to be good, upstanding members of the community who want to improve the site, and so are likely to only downvote posts that are genuinely deserving of it. Not everyone, sure, but the vast majority I'd hope.

An improvement to it is something I was beginning to work on, (a concept at least), but it took a a backseat. I’ll revisit it in 2020, but yeah, scrapping it is off the table.



                                                                                                             

Machina said:
I'd sooner look at ways the system can be improved, rather than scrap it altogether. For example, increasing the amount needed for a comment to be hidden. Or removing the anonymity attached to up and downvoting.

The theory behind the increased voting power for people who donate to the site is that said people are more likely to be good, upstanding members of the community who want to improve the site, and so are likely to only downvote posts that are genuinely deserving of it. Not everyone, sure, but the vast majority I'd hope.

I'd say make it -10 instead of -5 to make them hidden and see how that goes. 



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I'm OK with downvoting but it doesn't seem to be at all rare for good posts get effectively removed just because enough people disagree. I agree that some posts are worth hiding, but lots of at least decent posts go along as well. And it's not just that posts get hidden, it's also that replying becomes impossible.

It's possible that in the big picture, the voting system keeps the comment sections clean. Personally though, it doesn't improve my posts at all. It just makes me think what I should say to not get downvoted because people might disagree and ultimately, it makes me avoid posting comments altogether. I still do it occassionally but the voting system essentially makes it impossible to discuss anything in comments (which, depending on how you look at it, might be either a good or a bad thing).



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A like/dislike system by itself is fine, the problem is making it affect post visibility. Hiding comments is just silly.



Machina said:
I'd sooner look at ways the system can be improved, rather than scrap it altogether. For example, increasing the amount needed for a comment to be hidden. Or removing the anonymity attached to up and downvoting.

The theory behind the increased voting power for people who donate to the site is that said people are more likely to be good, upstanding members of the community who want to improve the site, and so are likely to only downvote posts that are genuinely deserving of it. Not everyone, sure, but the vast majority I'd hope.

Removing the anonymity is not only an effective method, but just about the only one that can matter. Everything else is fine as it is, including the additional voting power for supporters.

What's most important is that this thread is based on a bad comment that got downvoted, so before we all question the system when the system actually works, people who see problems should post several concrete and substantial cases that the system isn't working properly.



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BraLoD said:
The funniest part is that with people having subs double, triple and even quadruple the weight of a vote just one golden sub dislike can basically hide any post away, lol.
This thing is a complete mess.

Replicant said:
BraLoD said:
The funniest part is that with people having subs double, triple and even quadruple the weight of a vote just one golden sub dislike can basically hide any post away, lol.
This thing is a complete mess.

Yeah, wtf is that about

And we bitch about pay to win game mechanics...

pokoko said:
BraLoD said:
The funniest part is that with people having subs double, triple and even quadruple the weight of a vote just one golden sub dislike can basically hide any post away, lol.
This thing is a complete mess.

... you have got to be kidding me.  There is no way that can be true.

pokoko said:
Flilix said:

Bronze Supporter Tier: 2x voting power on site articles

Silver Supporter Tier: 3x voting power on site articles

Gold Supporter Tier: 4x voting power on site articles


http://www.vgchartz.com/supporters.php

I don't even know what to say.  That's unbelievable.  The whole voting thing is a sham and I never realized. 

Sounds like something EA would do.  

ironmanDX said:
pokoko said:

I don't even know what to say.  That's unbelievable.  The whole voting thing is a sham and I never realized. 

Sounds like something EA would do.  

Agreed... Well, not about the EA comment. 

That's a bit much. 

4x is ridiculous. No one's opinion should be worth more because they pay for it.

Having said that though, 2x is ok. I mean... Incentives. They're needed. This site is a business and I'm quite grateful for the service and information I have access to for free. A 2x is acceptable despite the rest my comment. 

Buying power is just part of life. :)

I kindly asked Talon to make it possible to choose the amount of +/- when voting in articles. Sometimes I simply leave comments alone, because I feel +4 or -4 is too much to give. Certainly a low priority, so it never happened. Plus he's gone now.



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