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Keiji on 18 December 2019
S.Peelman said:
Metacritic sucks for movies. Scores for things are all over the place and hardly ever make sense, or even parallel overal audience response in reality.

I’ll wait for the IMDb score, that’s usually close enough. Myself I’m going to see it friday, and make up my mind then.

I agree with your post from the beginning to the end.

But I watched a video reaction from a fan who got good taste in my opinion, and it was very negative. So don't ask too much from the movie.

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Lonely_Dolphin on 18 December 2019

What did Disney do to turn the media against them all of a sudden? Given how they rated The Last Jedi, it's clear that being objective and fair isn't their goal. Perhaps they weren't bribed hard enough. I certainly don't think the media just snapped out of their delusion and realized how bad the sequel trilogy has been. But anywho yeah, this movie has been set-up to fail by the previous movies, it would take a genius to right this ship. Can't wait for this comedy to go into full swing this friday!

starcraft said:
I saw it last night. Had its flaws, but overall was very good. The first 10 minutes is waaaaaaayyy too fast but it settles in to a good pace after that.

"And when looking at the movie critically, most critics and movie goers thought it was top notch." Based on your own logic here, that you're not siding with the critics this time means either they're not looking at the movie critically, or you aren't. Which is it?



Trentonater on 18 December 2019

It's worth noting that The Phantom Menace was fresh on Rotten tomatoes for the longest time. People often get the wrong idea from rotten tomates because it include more than jsut reviews from the time of release. Rise of Skywalker would actually be the worst reviewed of the Star Wars main sage at the time of release.



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BUG LONDON.

S.Peelman on 18 December 2019
Keiji said:
S.Peelman said:
Metacritic sucks for movies. Scores for things are all over the place and hardly ever make sense, or even parallel overal audience response in reality.

I’ll wait for the IMDb score, that’s usually close enough. Myself I’m going to see it friday, and make up my mind then.

I agree with your post from the beginning to the end.

But I watched a video reaction from a fan who got good taste in my opinion, and it was very negative. So don't ask too much from the movie.

Yeah I’ll be going in with an open mind.. If it’s bad it’s bad, if it’s great then that’s good. Either way is fine, it’s not like I’m going to just not see it.

I felt like watching Rogue One today. That one’s still awesome.



Keiji on 18 December 2019

Ah yes I forgot to say Rogue One was dope for me. The Mandalorian TV's show too.



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starcraft on 18 December 2019
Lonely_Dolphin said:

What did Disney do to turn the media against them all of a sudden? Given how they rated The Last Jedi, it's clear that being objective and fair isn't their goal. Perhaps they weren't bribed hard enough. I certainly don't think the media just snapped out of their delusion and realized how bad the sequel trilogy has been. But anywho yeah, this movie has been set-up to fail by the previous movies, it would take a genius to right this ship. Can't wait for this comedy to go into full swing this friday!

starcraft said:
I saw it last night. Had its flaws, but overall was very good. The first 10 minutes is waaaaaaayyy too fast but it settles in to a good pace after that.

"And when looking at the movie critically, most critics and movie goers thought it was top notch." Based on your own logic here, that you're not siding with the critics this time means either they're not looking at the movie critically, or you aren't. Which is it?

Link?

I liked the attempt to strawman me.

I enjoyed this movie, I have not yet read any reviews - as I was obviously trying to avoid spoilers. The consensus cited in the OP seems to be that its a bit all of the the shop...which is pretty consistent with my post.



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Lonely_Dolphin on 18 December 2019
starcraft said:

Link?

I liked the attempt to strawman me.

I enjoyed this movie, I have not yet read any reviews - as I was obviously trying to avoid spoilers. The consensus cited in the OP seems to be that its a bit all of the the shop...which is pretty consistent with my post.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9067817 - Yes I am that much of a loser to remember you saying this lul.

You have an interesting definition of very good if you think 58/53% constitutes that.



starcraft on 18 December 2019
Lonely_Dolphin said:
starcraft said:

Link?

I liked the attempt to strawman me.

I enjoyed this movie, I have not yet read any reviews - as I was obviously trying to avoid spoilers. The consensus cited in the OP seems to be that its a bit all of the the shop...which is pretty consistent with my post.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9067817 - Yes I am that much of a loser to remember you saying this lul.

You have an interesting definition of very good if you think 58/53% constitutes that.

You have an interesting definition of very bad if you think 85 constitutes that

I think you'll like it, there's a lot less virtue-signalling in this one



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KLAMarine on 18 December 2019
starcraft said:
I saw it last night. Had its flaws, but overall was very good. The first 10 minutes is waaaaaaayyy too fast but it settles in to a good pace after that.

WolfpackN64 said:
Well, I'm still stoked to go see it on saturday. Don't really care for the critics as I enjoyed the prequels (even if Attack of the Clones IMHO the worst Star Wars movie of all the movies out now that I've seen, which is all save for Rise of Skywalker, and I still enjoyed Attack of the Clones), and I honestly enjoyed The Last Jedi (even if the slow progression of the plot might have hampered this movie).

Shadow1980 said:
Certain Star Wars "fans" in 2017: "The critics are stupid and probably SJWs. The Last Jedi is obviously franchise-destroying garbage. Rian Johnson is a hack and Kathleen Kennedy is the devil. Yadda yadda."

Same Star Wars "fans" in 2019: "LOL. Mediocre score from critics. Yet another Nu-Wars fail. I guess the Disney checks didn't clear this time, amirite? Yadda yadda."

When it comes to certain "fans," critic scores are to be either dismissed out of hand or taken as gospel, depending on how it fits their narrative. Me? I realize that critics tend to review films not as fans but as, well, critics. They'll knock points off a film if they don't like the writing, cinematography, acting, and/or other elements of a film. Few of them judge a film first and foremost by its entertainment value. Lots of people still enjoy Episodes I & II despite similar review scores to Episode IX (this seems to be increasingly the case for people who dislike Disney-era Star Wars, even if they talked shit about the prequels back when they were new). This seems to be a movie "for the fans, not necessarily the critics." Indeed, there are tons of movies enjoyed unironically by millions of people despite middling reviews from critics. They may not be Oscar-caliber cinema, but what they are is entertaining. I feel this shall be the case with Rise of Skywalker. I have a ticket for tomorrow night, and I'm going again Saturday with some friends. There hasn't been a single Disney-era Star Wars film I haven't liked so far, and I doubt that will change after tomorrow night.


P.S.: If you're someone who I've already had a back-and-forth with in other threads about this subject as it pertains to Star Wars, I said my peace to you in those threads. I have nothing more to say to you. You know where I stand.

How'd you guys feel at this scene?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79CNws71XlI



Lonely_Dolphin on 18 December 2019
starcraft said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9067817 - Yes I am that much of a loser to remember you saying this lul.

You have an interesting definition of very good if you think 58/53% constitutes that.

You have an interesting definition of very bad if you think 85 constitutes that

I think you'll like it, there's a lot less virtue-signalling in this one

You are strawmaning in hopes of avoiding my question and acknowledging the false equivalence you just made. I never said my view was consistent with critic consensus like you did, and there was no virtue-signaling in the movies themselves.

Back to the question, who's not looking at the movie critically, you or the critics? You don't need to answer though, the conclusion is obvious. You side with critics and speak as if they're an authority as long as they share your overall opinion, regardless of whether or not their reviews are fair n objective. Now in a desperate attempt to remain consistent, you're deluding yourself into thinking the critics still share your opinion. Yikes.