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Is it worth paying for?

Yep! 3 8.82%
 
No! 31 91.18%
 
Total:34

Things about online dating:

10% women and 90% men, so you have to be at least in the top 20% to get any matches / replies and be very proactive in texting

Being a 7/10 'nice guy' will get you nowhere in the online world

Everything is about your pictures, both how you look and the environment that they depict (indoors, outdoors, vacation, among people, work, artsy, etc.)

Height is very important, 6ft or you will be judged

Women without body pictures are overweight, it's the law

Women tend to use selective or edited images to exaggerate their looks, men do that with height and status

Women in their 30s lie about their age

Many women are there just to get attention from simps, ask for an irl date early on to weed out the time wasters

Beware hookers, fakers, cam-girls

Overall online dating for men is mostly disappointing. I have been on ca. 20 irl dates so far and real world experience is much better.



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curl-6 said:

Thanks guys.

I think I will ultimately have to put more emphasis on trying to meet women in real life. It is just hard to find places and scenarios where it feels acceptable. I mean I can't just ask out the cute cashier at the local supermarket in front of the queue behind me waiting to be served for example.

Really? I do this all the time. Especially at Starbucks. GO FOR IT! Stop being a whimp. 

No offense, but youre a typical nerd with no to little experience in talking to females. 

Do you have snapchat? Better than all dating apps without being one. Perfect starter for storing and building relationships. 

I really genuinely dont believe anybody is so unattractive (unless they put no effort in grooming). I have seen plenty of average bro's with some bad bitches. 



I read a review of all the major dating sites you mentioned where the reviewer tried all the paid versions and came to the conclusion that OK Cupid's paid one was the only one that felt remotely worth it, but it was written before they changed to the new, stupider message system. From what I can tell, the only time paying would help anyone would be right when they start the account, because that's when your profile gets the most free promotion, and no one has left swiped you yet, plus right swipes on a lot of these apps expire, and by the time they do, your account is no longer receiving the promotion a new profile gets, so the account is basically useless, as is any paid version.

Real life dating gets difficult after college, because you no longer have the exposure to so many women that you get at a college, and there are fewer appropriate times and scenes to interact with them in. Even harder if you work in a setting with few women, harder still if you don't frequent the bar scene or go to church, as those are the three major social environments of adult life in most western cultures. Sometimes you just gotta find your own social scene, like joining a club or something. You can find stuff like that on the internet too, on sites like Meet Up. I've done stuff like that to find tabletop gaming groups, but you could find whatever you're interested in. Once you find your people, you have your dating pool, but also you'll have friendship and companionship of the platonic variety, which is also nice. Other times you gotta make your own social interactions, just get out there, talk to the cute cashier at the coffee shop, whatever. That's a good skill to have anyway, because even if you find your scene, nothing will happen if you don't make a move to get to know someone. Like lets say you went to a cosplay convention. Super social sort of event where plenty of gamers and nerds will be for the express purpose of communing over their common interests. Great opportunity to make new friends, maybe even more, but not if you stand there in silence like an idiot and watch the cute girls in costumes walk by. I mean you also gotta know how not to come off as a creep, you'll have to be prepared for rejection, you'll need time to build up experience if you want to do it well, and most likely it'll take time and effort before any significant intimacy happens (even of the emotional variety), but thems the breaks, and you gotta start somewhere.



The OP mentioned he is 30, that alone decreases his value on a dating app.
Young College frat boys have more time to spend on dating sites, do fun stuff and meet up with women in their age range and hang out around College campus.
People over a certain age no longer have the time to spend on dating apps and they are too busy with work and being responsible adults in the real world.
Do not get too upset about not getting any responses from dating sites where most profiles appear to have filters and have been edited to project perfect lifestyle.

Last edited by Phoenix20 - on 18 January 2020

curl-6 said:
sethnintendo said:

Have you tried going to bars? If you aren't looking for relationship and just want to get laid then start going to bars. Drunk chicks are usually easier to pickup. Alcohol will help you get laid.  I've been in long term on and off for past decade or so but I have been good wingman for friends in past. I've gotten one friend laid multiple times by going up to a couple or group of girls first breaking ice then calling my friend over.

Find a good wingman and hit the bars up.

I have tried going to bars, yes, actually met my first girlfriend at one, but I do find them an extremely difficult environment to handle due to the noise and crowds; being drunk helps a lot, but I've been recommended to avoid alcohol while I undergo treatment for my cancer.

I also don't really want to pick up drunk women due to issues with consent.

Has the OP considered joining cancer support forums or groups? This is your chance to use cancer as a talking point to meet people and form a connection with the shared experience of having cancer.

I hope you get through and beat cancer and get back to full health. In addition to dealing with Cancer you also have Autism and you should be talking about it on social media and on Youtube and hopefully gain views and followers and supporters. 

Last edited by Phoenix20 - on 19 January 2020

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dx11332sega said:
curl-6 said:

Sorry I don't really feel comfortable with that. I'm not hideous, just below average.

I have badoo in that app you get girls checking you out those that are near by. if someone marks try to chat with you but dont say anything try saying something theres hi but say other things too besides hi i went to date asia i said hi didnt get a response then i said you look cute then she responeded me in asiadate.com then we talked then the frickin gotta pay too keep talking to her ad came said i gotta put credit card i left. I blew my chance at badoo because i only said hi only in my area i gotta say more stuff and if she keeps talking keep talkinmg to her you might go on a date :)

If they're trying to lead you to a website then it's a bot/scam. 



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curl-6 said:
Ended up getting a month impulsively as I'm desperate for anything to keep my mind off the tumor.
I've had my profile redone several times by friends to try to make it better but I think I'm simply too ugly to ever get any real success.

Find a good TV show and get absorbed in it, it's the best way to have your mind off your problems. Why would you (or anybody) want to mingle with other humans in real life? Unless the problems and issues inherent to social activities are a distraction to you?



Most women have not seen your profile and get lost in the sea of men. After 2 days your account disappears from view and are not seen. Dating sites are a pointless waste of time and none of the advice offered online works. There is no way to improve profiles or photos to get more matches and game the system to win at Tinder. 90% of us guys that try Tinder are just wasting our time and should just work more hours or focus on hobbies. Tinder is not a solution for the majority of us guys and I would not want to smash my smart phone because an app said I am not good enough.

I have read quite a few guys online reporting on various sites of 100,000 swipes and no matches. A good thumb work and getting totally jacked thumbs! Must alternate with left and right and build the muscle strength in those thumbs! If your city is late enough could reach 1 million swipes and not a single match!

Last edited by Phoenix20 - on 19 January 2020

CrazyGamer2017 said:
curl-6 said:
Ended up getting a month impulsively as I'm desperate for anything to keep my mind off the tumor.
I've had my profile redone several times by friends to try to make it better but I think I'm simply too ugly to ever get any real success.

Find a good TV show and get absorbed in it, it's the best way to have your mind off your problems. Why would you (or anybody) want to mingle with other humans in real life? Unless the problems and issues inherent to social activities are a distraction to you?

Because I want to get laid.

Phoenix20 said:
curl-6 said:

I have tried going to bars, yes, actually met my first girlfriend at one, but I do find them an extremely difficult environment to handle due to the noise and crowds; being drunk helps a lot, but I've been recommended to avoid alcohol while I undergo treatment for my cancer.

I also don't really want to pick up drunk women due to issues with consent.

Has the OP considered joining cancer support forums or groups? This is your chance to use cancer as a talking point to meet people and form a connection with the shared experience of having cancer.

I hope you get through and beat cancer and get back to full health. In addition to dealing with Cancer you also have Autism and you should be talking about it on social media and on Youtube and hopefully gain views and followers and supporters. 

I actually do have a decent following on social media and my blog, mostly for the work I do as an autism advocate, where I teach kids on the spectrum in schools and give talks at autism conferences, and I have talked about my cancer journey through the former two platforms. On the plus side I have gotten a lot of really lovely words of support from the community, but it tends to evoke sympathy rather than anything resembling attraction.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series X will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

Whatever you do, do not pay for a Pick Up Artist program.
Pick Up artists push nonsense advice that is unlikely to work for guys that are not above average in looks.
Most women claim to have boyfriends/taken and they do not show signs of interest.
Online dating apps only add to the frustration and they do not work for guys that are not above average in looks.
You just have to hope one day a woman that you approach may be interested in you and she is not taken.
Just focus on your work and hobbies and hope one day you may find someone that is interested in you.

Last edited by Phoenix20 - on 20 January 2020