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Quite the jump ahead of PS4 for Switch. Will be interesting to see if it remains ahead for long or if the double helix pattern continues.



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Are we doing PS4 vs 360 in the US, Xbone vs PS3 in the US, and Xbone vs 360 globally this month?

Last edited by curl-6 - on 27 December 2019

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trunkswd said:
curl-6 said:

Are we doing PS4 vs 360 in the US, Xbone vs PS3 in the US, and Xbone vs 360 globally this month?

Yes, Yes, and no. Last I stopped doing a while ago and just post the global gap at the bottom of the X1 vs 360 US article. 

Ah, I missed that. Cool, looking forward to those two then, thanks for all your work. :)



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trunkswd said:

You can read the complete article and Analysis here:

Xbox One vs Xbox 360 in the US – VGChartz Gap Charts – November 2019

Xbox One Vs. Xbox 360 USA:

Gap change in latest month: 944,349 – X360

Gap change over last 12 months: 4,428,769 – X360

Total Lead: 3,831,369 – X360

Xbox One Total Sales: 26,845,047

Xbox 360 Total Sales: 30,676,416

Safe to say 360 has won this fight at this stage. Still, interesting to see how the curves play out and what the final gap will be.



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trunkswd said:
curl-6 said:

Safe to say 360 has won this fight at this stage. Still, interesting to see how the curves play out and what the final gap will be.

Worldwide the Xbox One is going to finish 30+ million behind the Xbox 360. It is going to limp across 50 million sold. 

True, what I meant was in the US.



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curl-6 said:
trunkswd said:

Worldwide the Xbox One is going to finish 30+ million behind the Xbox 360. It is going to limp across 50 million sold. 

True, what I meant was in the US.

XBO will finish around 30m, 360 was around 45 million



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trunkswd said:
zorg1000 said:

XBO will finish around 30m, 360 was around 45 million

So about 2/3 what the 360 sold lifetime. I have a feeling the Xbox Series X will be a much bigger success for Microsoft. 

I do too, 360 era ended with MS shifting away from core gamers to casuals with Kinect then followed that up with the huge PR blunder to start XBO with no used games, always online, Kinect required, 2nd tier countries, $100 more expensive than PS4, etc.

They are ending XBO more similar to how Sony ended PS3 by releasing a great new service (PS+/Game Pass) and investing more into high quality first party studios.

As long as they dont make any unnecessary mistakes to start XSX like they did with XBO than they should be able to build off of that and have more success.

I think this will cause PS5 sales to not reach PS4 but still have a comfortable lead. I'll go with

XSX-65 million (up from ~50m XBO)

PS5-110 million (down from ~125m PS4)

Obviously this could change as we find out more about these devices but that's my initial prediction.



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trunkswd said:

You can read the complete article and Analysis here:

PS4 vs PS3 in Japan – VGChartz Gap Charts – November 2019

PS4 Vs. PS3 Japan:

Gap change in latest month: 13,769 – PS3

Gap change over last 12 months: 235,758 – PS3

Total Lead: 97,924 – PS4

PlayStation 4 Total Sales: 8,510,406

PlayStation 3 Total Sales: 8,412,482

This is a super close one, and hence very interesting to watch. I feel like PS3 will win in the end.



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trunkswd said:

You can read the complete article and Analysis here:

Switch vs 3DS and Wii U in the US – VGChartz Gap Charts – November 2019

 

Switch Vs. 3DS and Wii U USA:

Gap change in latest month: 717,793 – Switch

Gap change over last 12 months: 1,317,984 - Switch

Total Lead: 1,031,793 - Switch

Switch Total Sales: 15,564,941

3DS and Wii U Total Sales: 14,533,148

It's especially gratifying to see Switch trending ahead in this one given all that "it's not a success unless outsells 3DS + Wii U combined" downplaying in 2017-2018.



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RolStoppable said:
curl-6 said:

It's especially gratifying to see Switch trending ahead in this one given all that "it's not a success unless outsells 3DS + Wii U combined" downplaying in 2017-2018.

Now if only you would stop believing that Switch's global lifetime sales will beat the 3DS and Wii U combined by only 12-25m units. I am already looking forward to the day when I tell you that I told you so.

I'd love to see that happen, believe me.



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