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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 28 September 2019

Ganoncrotch said:
curl-6 said:

With it's domination in Japan being so prominent, it's easy to overlook just how much Switch is killing it in North America at the moment; well over double its closest competitor, and 5 times the Xbone.

How badly the X1 is doing in the States compared to the other 2 machines is a real sign that the name "Xbox" is unlikely to appear on their next machine imo, think they might go full Wiiu>Switch with it and just restart that brand from the ground up with a new look and name to distance themselves from this generations abject failure.

Honestly I still half expect them to got into full moron mode and call Scarlet something like "Xbox One Omega" or some shit.



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I don't think the name Xbox is going anywhere. I was going to say stranger things have happened, but among the big players throughout history, but can't think of anything that would match such a drastic re-branding.



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curl-6 said:
Ganoncrotch said:

How badly the X1 is doing in the States compared to the other 2 machines is a real sign that the name "Xbox" is unlikely to appear on their next machine imo, think they might go full Wiiu>Switch with it and just restart that brand from the ground up with a new look and name to distance themselves from this generations abject failure.

Honestly I still half expect them to got into full moron mode and call Scarlet something like "Xbox One Omega" or some shit.

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COKTOE said:
I don't think the name Xbox is going anywhere. I was going to say stranger things have happened, but among the big players throughout history, but can't think of anything that would match such a drastic re-branding.

I don't think the "Xbox" name needs to go, but the "Xbox One" branding definitely needs to die, it's become associated with failure and undesirability. 



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

Its strage how sony insists on not getting the price of the PS4 down to $199. Then again who can blame them if they are still able to push around a quarter-million most weeks.

Switch making a beeline for that 20M. May even hit 21M+. Shouldn't that make it the best selling 8th gen console in a calendar year?

The Xbox... well its Xbox. They probably are praying sony finds a way to dro the ball next-gen. I doubt the brand survives another gen like this one.



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curl-6 said:
Ganoncrotch said:

How badly the X1 is doing in the States compared to the other 2 machines is a real sign that the name "Xbox" is unlikely to appear on their next machine imo, think they might go full Wiiu>Switch with it and just restart that brand from the ground up with a new look and name to distance themselves from this generations abject failure.

Honestly I still half expect them to got into full moron mode and call Scarlet something like "Xbox One Omega" or some shit.

Naaaa... at worst it would be called XBox10.



Intrinsic said:
Its strage how sony insists on not getting the price of the PS4 down to $199. Then again who can blame them if they are still able to push around a quarter-million most weeks.

Switch making a beeline for that 20M. May even hit 21M+. Shouldn't that make it the best selling 8th gen console in a calendar year?

The Xbox... well its Xbox. They probably are praying sony finds a way to dro the ball next-gen. I doubt the brand survives another gen like this one.

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Intrinsic said:

Switch making a beeline for that 20M. May even hit 21M+. Shouldn't that make it the best selling 8th gen console in a calendar year?

The current best is PS4 2017 at 20.2 million.



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curl-6 said:
COKTOE said:
I don't think the name Xbox is going anywhere. I was going to say stranger things have happened, but among the big players throughout history, but can't think of anything that would match such a drastic re-branding.

I don't think the "Xbox" name needs to go, but the "Xbox One" branding definitely needs to die, it's become associated with failure and undesirability. 

That was directed more at Ganon than you, but fair enough. :)

MS was never going to continue the "One" branding regardless of how the XBO performed. They haven't done so yet, and any logical extension of the "One" branding would end up sounding profoundly stupid. The meaning of "One" was meant, as I understand it, to brand the system as "The one box that does everything" or something along those lines. Just as "360" was meant as a complete revolution. The gaming community at large gives their successors placeholder names like 720 or XB2, but those were never in the cards.



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zorg1000 said:
Intrinsic said:

Switch making a beeline for that 20M. May even hit 21M+. Shouldn't that make it the best selling 8th gen console in a calendar year?

The current best is PS4 2017 at 20.2 million.

So basically the switch needs to do like 11M in 10 weeks or so.