Nintendo don't feel the need to convince you because as you've said here they've never appealed to you to begin with you you wouldn't bother trying to market meat to vegetarians for example and your assessment of Switch's games is off because games like Doom Eternal, Wolfenstein, Octopath, Hollow Knight, Outer Worlds, Bloodstained, Valkryria 4, Trine 3, Trials of Mana remake etc... are not old great games they're recent or upcoming games, objectively Switch doesn't lack anything that makes a platform great regardless whether it appeals to you the's no real lack of anything here. You're using your subjective taste in your views when the are objective factors that say otherwise and that's the issue in your argument and why some people may find it annoying, for example right now from July to December Switch has a load of games coming out that are likely to be really good more so than the other platforms you may not find them appealing but it doesn't change this fact.

Basing your success on first party is actually far more reliable than relying on third parties both Sony and Nintendo realized this long ago and MS have realized this recently why? Because exclusivity factors heavily in swaying consumers GTA and all that are available across many platforms to the point they aren't selling points for your platform anymore it's the likes of Mario, Zelda, GOW, Halo etc... Third parties at any point can jump ship or on any bandwagon as they're not trying to sell your platform just their own software. Fact is Nintendo has a line up of games that will have a fair share of 10m sellers with possibly some 20m sellers come the end of the Switch's life and this is due to building success off their own back then relying on others to do it for them the result is whether you get the likes of COD or not you still will have 10m-20m selling software to push your hardware.

What has it been, 2 years?
Heck, ps4 better watch out.

As i said..., all of those games i can play it right now, whenever i want. Most of them have or are coming even way later than on PS4 or PC, and to be honest..., they are not interesting to me at all. I already told you what games i like. 

You saying Switch doesn't lack anything that makes a platform great is completely subjective. It's completely lacking for me, and i'm pretty sure for a lot of people, but hey, I was just trying to explain my point of view which is just that, a point of view. You can try to understand it or not.

I'm pretty sure Nintendo software will always sell more or less great. And i'm pretty sure i will still not buy a console like this from Nintendo. And because of people like me Switch won't reach the success a Nintendo home console could reach.......in my opinion, of course.

I for one appreciate your candor.  You are a fan of a certain style of game and have certain expectations for your gaming experiences. For you those experiences happen on the Playstation.  The issue I take is for people to keep demanding that Nintendo jump through their hoops to win them back, while the other companies don't even try to court the average Nintendo gamer.  Nintendo is at least trying in their own way to reach as many people as possible within their own obviously limiting architecture.  It's almost a miracle what they've been able to do this time around and sometimes it just sucks when people still go to the old arguments of declaring them difficult to work with.  

The days of the SNES are long, long gone.  At that point there were two major console manufacturers and Nintendo were of course the go-to console of choice for third parties.  They obviously made several blunders in that era, leading as we all know to the creation of Nintendo's biggest rival, Sony. I don't think I have any beef with your personally, or your statement.  I was simply responding to the cliche, and you can't deny that it is one.  And I'm not saying the statement is without merit, but at some point we have to at least give Nintendo some credit for playing well with others.  And while I was once an avid Playstation gamer, sadly they've left my gaming tastes behind and it's be, as you put it, egotistical for me to suggest that catering to my cartoony, silly tastes to win back my loyalty.  Each of these manufacturers have found a pretty substantial portion of the market and for us gamers it's just a win-win-win situation.  And yes, sometimes you'll have to drop down some cash to buy a console for one game.  I swear if Sony ever decides to have Naughty Dog revisit Jak and Daxter like the good 'ol days you'd see me paying a premium for the experience.

Pokemon 1337 fans "Don't look at that number, keep moving, NOTHING to see here! Please?"

The fact of the matter is that it is competing. And the hypocrisy only comes in when it is a benefit to disadvantage the Switch and downplay its success in the face of its competitors. Because they do compete, for the consumers time, money, shelfspace. It is all part of the same industry, video game entertainment. Hence, it does not make any sense to say that they don't compete since there isn't even a difference in demographics. It's not kids versus older teens buying one or the other, it's more closer than you think.

It's all about the software that will make the Switch perform great well into Scarletts and PS5's respective launches. Because it will have a very good established library with a great exclusive lineup and many good 3rd party titles to choose from, on the go. Eventually, it will end like every other console. And then the next iterations will come to compete with that generation and so forth. This idea that they are not competing doesn't make sense.

Well let me tell you one thing. If Nintendo games were out on the Playstation or Xbox, they would be the highest selling games on those too. That's what you get when you are a studio with great output and great IPs. But on a more serious note, besides the good selection of triple A titles it doesn't get, and the games that it does get, how do you still come to that conclusion. You only gave some selective titles, but leave out others. You see, this is why I take issue with this, because you don't have actual numbers. Only the knowledge that Nintendo games sell great.. on their own platform. Which doesn't exactly mean third parties it does get, sell like shit. It's an assumption.

You're right, because they are indirectly competing.

XBO/PS4 is direct competition because the better one sells the worse the other will sell.

Switch/PS4 or XBO is indirect competition because a massively successful switch won't have a big negative impact on a PlayStation or Xbox console.

PlayStation and Xbox are both fighting over the same scraps, and a person is much less likely to own both a PlayStation and Xbox than both a PS/XB and a Switch.

Though even if you reject the terminology, it's indisputable that PlayStation/Xbox have many more similarities and are much closer linked in competition than the Switch.

Again you're using subjectivity to argue objective factors just because they don't appeal to you it doesn't discount them them releasing later doesn't change that either which is made up with by the fact they'll be portable which is a significant feature whether you use it or not.

What I said is not subjective as what makes a great platform? Good product and selection of games and Switch ticks both these boxes objectively it's not about appealing solely to you it's about being in general, I know your point of view problem is your point of view uses a lot of subjective notions while objectively things can say otherwise this is why the person who replied to you made their post as this is not a topic of individual point of views we're looking at objective factors.

Nintendo isn't out trying to appeal to you because you were never going to be interested to begin with, what you want is not for them to try and appeal to you but for them to become another platform holder entirely which will never work Switch will reach the success a home console could reach because they not trying to go after you but instead going after everyone else this is highlighted by the fact that it is outselling all prior Nintendo consoles with the SNES going to be passed by the end of this fiscal year.

Too many people to answer..., so i'll give just one.

I was giving my own opinion about why i don't like Nintendo's direction so of course i was subjective, i was trying to be completely subjective because that was the point. There's not absolute reasonality as to why you prefer a kind of game or a kind of console. It's completely subjective.To everyone that likes it, congratulations. For me, not so much, and if for me the console doesn't appeal me enough, then there's automatically a reason to improve its appeal.

All of this came from my comment about how more than half the sales of Switch come from its 12-15 best selling games, meaning all the other hundreds games on the console represent the other half. I really don't think any 3rd party game has surpassed 2M sold on Switch, and there must not be too much games that have sold 1M or more either. It's not bad..., but it's not great either, or a "great story".

As for Nintendo games being the best selling games on PS4 if they launched there too ...., they would sell well of course, but not that well as on a Switch. PS4 consumers don't buy double the games compared to Switch consumers. People on average buy 10 games per console, when you have so much variety to play, the share of games that people buy spreads too. If PS4 owners buy their FIFA, COD, GTA, then there's less space for the others. That's why Nintendo doesn't want 3rd party being too powerful on their consoles, it's an ecosystem that benefits their gaming lineup. Like someone said, people prefer to play its COD, FIFA, GTA on PS/XB and their Nintendo games on their exclusive hardware. They are both complementary.

I guess i will have to accept i will never buy a Nintendo console then, it seems i'm not the target audience....Like i said, a shame, because I do like Zelda, Mario, Donkey Kong, Pokemon, Metroid....If only some 3rd party support was better, i would already bought one. For example i was playing right now Nier Automata and i find no reason why this game is not on a Switch, or Persona 5 either. I loved playing P4 Golden on PSV way more than P5 on a big TV. It would have been great on that console.

Maybe some time in the future Nintendo will copy Microsoft and make a Nintendo Pass of sorts, so i will be able to play their games without paying the hardware and everyone will be happy......

That's enough for today. I was just trying to answer some direct questions, but it's pretty obvious this has run its course, so thanks to all and good night.