For me it's a little more complex than siding with either one.  First I will never side with Antifa because I consider them just another thug group.  Even if the worst thing they did was throw milkshakes and eggs at people I would still consider then garbage.  Any group that feels those types of acts are acceptable need to have each and every member charged with assault and prosecuted to full extent of the law.

As to Mr. Ngo, my feelings are little different.  I am looking at this motivation and his aim in making this confrontation.  Afterwards I am looking at what he says and does and the narrative he is building based on what happened.  If his aim was to walk into danger, expose Antifa for a violent group, gain national traction against such groups (not just Antifa) and be the rally cry for Americans to stop tolerating this BS, then he would be my hero but instead he is a player. What I mean by that is that he is playing the left vs right game.  He doesn't denounce other violent groups but instead paints a picture of the violent left.  His narrative is that the left is violent based on Antifa and he builds a story on those grounds.  This just makes him another asshole in this whole BS of left and right which further divide the nation and doesn't move the needle forward.

So, Mr. Ngo turned a hero moment into just another partisan BS crap we have seen in the US for decades.  Maybe there will be someone who takes that beating for everyone not just the right or the left but it sure isn't Mr. Ngo.

Again, ignore either groups/person past and just take the istuation up front. In a developed country that is not in a civil war/revolt/uprising/ect a civilian is beaten up by a group of masked individuals.   THE END

Quit this "he was asking for it" Go and tell a rape victim s/he was asking for it by the way they dressed.

But let's go down this 'asking for it' route. Let's use sports football for an example. If I were to do a study on which sports teams fans are the best and worst, a simple way would be to put on a rival teams jersey and walk over to the tailgating area before a game and see what happens. Heck maybe even talk smack. 

Let's say I wear a Vikings jersey and go to Green Bay and get beat up.

Then I wear a Packers jersey and go to Minneapolis and don't get beat up. 

Which team has worse fans? You could say I was asking for it in both situations. The difference is that one group of people didn't resort to violence. 

Again, ignore either groups/person past and just take the istuation up front. In a developed country that is not in a civil war/revolt/uprising/ect a civilian is beaten up by a group of masked individuals.   THE END

Quit this "he was asking for it" Go and tell a rape victim s/he was asking for it by the way they dressed.

But let's go down this 'asking for it' route. Let's use sports football for an example. If I were to do a study on which sports teams fans are the best and worst, a simple way would be to put on a rival teams jersey and walk over to the tailgating area before a game and see what happens. Heck maybe even talk smack. 

Let's say I wear a Vikings jersey and go to Green Bay and get beat up.

Then I wear a Packers jersey and go to Minneapolis and don't get beat up. 

Which team has worse fans? You could say I was asking for it in both situations. The difference is that one group of people didn't resort to violence. 

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But let's go down this 'asking for it' route. Let's use sports football for an example. If I were to do a study on which sports teams fans are the best and worst, a simple way would be to put on a rival teams jersey and walk over to the tailgating area before a game and see what happens. Heck maybe even talk smack. 

Let's say I wear a Vikings jersey and go to Green Bay and get beat up.

Then I wear a Packers jersey and go to Minneapolis and don't get beat up. 

Which team has worse fans? You could say I was asking for it in both situations. The difference is that one group of people didn't resort to violence. 

"The president of the United States himself stuck up for what the far-right did in Charlottesville."

evidence? quote?

First and Foremost, you need to stop with the "He was asking for it" BS because I never stated that or implied it.  Instead, I stated anyone who walks into the middle of a violent group looking to do you harm will probably get harmed because its basic common sense.  Do you deny this part or not.  

As to the current issue, I am not looking at the just the event.  That is fine and dandy for you if that makes you feel good but I am looking at all the players, past, present and future.  If a violent group assault anyone no matter how mild, I never disagreed that they should be punished and evident you totally skipped that part in my reply.  

Lets take your analogy.

"Let's say I wear a Vikings jersey and go to Green Bay and get beat up."

Now, after getting beat up, you go on national media, internet sites and whatever preaching that all Green Bay fans are violent instead of concentrating on the people that actually did the act.  Lets say before you decided to wear that Viking Jersey, you have a repeated the message that "ALL" Green Bay fans are violent aHoles then decided to sit on the Green Bay side with your Viking Jersey.

This in my eyes would make you just as much an Ahole as the people who beat you up.  I would see you as a person whose aim is to instigate chaos and then build a narrative to disapparage all Green Bay fans instead of concentrating on the people that beat you up.

You want to view this story as only a reporter getting his butt kicked by Antifa.  I on the other hand is looking at the total story including the aftermath.  I am looking at all the players and their actions and viewing how they develop their story on this event. If the only thing you want to do is state that Antifa is bad and they should be punish, then we have no disagreement there but if you also want to put Mr. Ngo on a pedestal then that is where we have a difference in opinion.

I think the point is relevance.

It is irrelevant that Ngo opted to saunter into danger even knowing full well that violence could happen to him. The fault lies 100% in those that use violence. It is a distraction. I mean, let me ask: what is your point? What do you feel is the relevance in pointing this out?th

And like he said, the same could be said with rape victims. If someone is raped then some guy says: "but well she DID walk into a dangerous alley wearing barely any clothing!", how do you think that could be taken here?

Point is: Antifa has turned violent. Or at least a segment of it has graduated from intimidation/harassment to actual violence. And apparently (correct me if I am wrong) some people think a person's beliefs is sufficient reason for him to be "asking for it". At least, the people who assaulted him and the people who defend the assaulters are at least.

And NO. A person wearing something provocative does not share blame with those that resort to violence. The fault is always 100% on those who escalate and do violence.A victim is not as much as an asshole as those who attack them. What the heck is wrong with you?

It's funny how you equate a provoked assault from an extremist group to an unprovoked rape like they're the same thing.

How much mental gymnastics do you have to do to get to that false equivalence?