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Rate the 2019 Xbox E3 Conference

10 2 3.23%
 
9 3 4.84%
 
8 8 12.90%
 
7 11 17.74%
 
6 18 29.03%
 
5 9 14.52%
 
4 6 9.68%
 
3 2 3.23%
 
2 2 3.23%
 
1 1 1.61%
 
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chakkra said:
twintail said:

Maybe,  maybe not.  

I don't see any evidence of MS software being stronger.  Looks pretty much the same to me.

The scarlett section was handled pretty badly.  Playing catch up to Sony on stuff we already know (loading, 8k, 120hz, custom ssd) and showing off Halo without any wow factor. 

So basically doubling up the amount of studios, which automatically means doubling up the output of games is the exact same to you..

Okay then..

Yes, because having more studios mean a stronger lineup / more quality games.

dont make me laugh. Just because they have higher potential output (which they don't have right now, as I have said) doesn't put them in a better position for anything unless said games are actually good. 



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RolStoppable said:
More important than the specs is that Spencer emphasized that Scarlett will be only about one thing and that is gaming. It can be ruled out that Microsoft will commit blunders like with the Xbox One, so the sales potential for Scarlett is higher.

Thats really good. 



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twintail said:

Yes, because having more studios mean a stronger lineup / more quality games.

dont make me laugh. Just because they have higher potential output (which they don't have right now, as I have said) doesn't put them in a better position for anything unless said games are actually good. 

Why are we acting like MS don't make good games or have decent ones coming out?

Can I ask you this,

Lets forget about the other 13 studios and lets just look at 3 games here. Do you think Gears 5, Halo 6 and Ori 2 or below par games that are releasing?

Quality was never an issue here, it was the quantity which it seems they have addressed. You can argue that Crackdown 3, Halo Wars 2 and State of Decay 2 are poor outings, but lets look at the bigger picture here, none of those games were made eternally. Also lets not act like there competition doesn't make subpar games, they all do.



Azzanation said:
twintail said:

Yes, because having more studios mean a stronger lineup / more quality games.

dont make me laugh. Just because they have higher potential output (which they don't have right now, as I have said) doesn't put them in a better position for anything unless said games are actually good. 

Why are we acting like MS don't make good games or have decent ones coming out?

Can I ask you this,

Lets forget about the other 13 studios and lets just look at 3 games here. Do you think Gears 5, Halo 6 and Ori 2 or below par games that are releasing?

Quality was never an issue here, it was the quantity which it seems they have addressed. You can argue that Crackdown 3, Halo Wars 2 and State of Decay 2 are poor outings, but lets look at the bigger picture here, none of those games were made eternally. Also lets not act like there competition doesn't make subpar games, they all do.

We aren't. All I have said is that their future output right now doesn't look much different from their current output.

Gears 5 looks like Gears. E3 showing was straight up junk, so it looks below par so far to me. Halo Infinite is hard to tell, we have like nothing going on it. Ori 2 looks really good.

As I said before, I am not saying their quality sucks. I am saying that their future output doesn't look to be greater than what we are getting now. And considering this convo has been strictly about MS, the competition talk is irrelevant, and comparisons is something I am not doing. 



twintail said:

We aren't. All I have said is that their future output right now doesn't look much different from their current output.

Gears 5 looks like Gears. E3 showing was straight up junk, so it looks below par so far to me. Halo Infinite is hard to tell, we have like nothing going on it. Ori 2 looks really good.

As I said before, I am not saying their quality sucks. I am saying that their future output doesn't look to be greater than what we are getting now. And considering this convo has been strictly about MS, the competition talk is irrelevant, and comparisons is something I am not doing. 

Not sure how you can be so blunt with saying the show is junk. What exactly did you want and expected? They showcased a bunch of games, they don't all have to be AAA budgeted titles to deserve points. Also a lot of the games they showed they basically own.. like The Outer Worlds, Wasteland 3 and Minecraft Dungeons just to name a few. They will also announce more at the PC event with Gears Tactics and hopefully AoE4.

To me there future output looks just as good as it ever was, I was disappointed that Ori 2 was delayed to 2020, however I got to see gameplay of Battletoads and I saw Ninja Theory's new game. 

The Halo trailers can tell a million words, as its the little things you notice in the trailer rather than straight up gameplay. Halo fans like myself loved what we saw and heard, if you are into Halo you would understand its an event not just another game. I am a little disappointed that they didn't show gameplay footage but the overall Halo trailer was well worth it for me and its hyped beyond belief.

As for the entire show, we had MS announce there next console specs, we had them purchase another studio, we were shown 14 1st party games and a bunch of 3rd party games that will look better on the X compared to its console counter parts. The show cannot please you unless you know what you actually want.

It felt like Xbox were holding there cards to there chest this E3, no announcements from Turn 10, Playgrounds 2nd division, Compulsion, Rare and Initiative which means there saving them for next year. To prove that fact just look at there console announcement, they only announced everything Sony announced with PS5 and left it at that, basically saying they are doing all those things to. Next year will be an even bigger year.

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Halo is day 1. Thats about it. No Perfect Dark. No conker. No main forza. Not much to look forward to really.



Azzanation said:
V-r0cK said:
It was just a very typical Microsoft E3 for me:

You got the standard 3 games MS can't live without, Halo, Forza, and Gears. And then 99% of the games that actually interest you are multiplats, while any Japanese games they show will sell significantly greater on the Playstation. I expected more with all those devs they boasted about buying.

Yes but all those games will play better on the X or PC.

Yes but sales can tell you not many really cares if it plays better on X or PC.  Majority of multiplat games usually sell more on Playstation (for now on this gen, not sure how next gen will play out).



Azzanation said:
twintail said:

We aren't. All I have said is that their future output right now doesn't look much different from their current output.

Gears 5 looks like Gears. E3 showing was straight up junk, so it looks below par so far to me. Halo Infinite is hard to tell, we have like nothing going on it. Ori 2 looks really good.

As I said before, I am not saying their quality sucks. I am saying that their future output doesn't look to be greater than what we are getting now. And considering this convo has been strictly about MS, the competition talk is irrelevant, and comparisons is something I am not doing. 

Not sure how you can be so blunt with saying the show is junk. What exactly did you want and expected? They showcased a bunch of games, they don't all have to be AAA budgeted titles to deserve points. Also a lot of the games they showed they basically own.. like The Outer Worlds, Wasteland 3 and Minecraft Dungeons just to name a few. They will also announce more at the PC event with Gears Tactics and hopefully AoE4.

To me there future output looks just as good as it ever was, I was disappointed that Ori 2 was delayed to 2020, however I got to see gameplay of Battletoads and I saw Ninja Theory's new game. 

The Halo trailers can tell a million words, as its the little things you notice in the trailer rather than straight up gameplay. Halo fans like myself loved what we saw and heard, if you are into Halo you would understand its an event not just another game. I am a little disappointed that they didn't show gameplay footage but the overall Halo trailer was well worth it for me and its hyped beyond belief.

It felt like Xbox were holding there cards to there chest this E3, no announcements from Turn 10, Playgrounds 2nd division, Compulsion, Rare and Initiative which means there saving them for next year. To prove that fact just look at there console announcement, they only announced everything Sony announced with PS5 and left it at that, basically saying they are doing all those things to. Next year will be an even bigger year.

I mean that the e3 showing for Gears 5 was junk, not the entire MS conference, which I thought was fine. Not amazing but decent enough. But I can understand why you may have thought I meant the conference as a whole.

If the game lineup looks as good as always then that is fine, but that is still as it has been and not greater than usual, right?

Halo trailer was fine but it didnt wow me as much as i had expected. Its the 2nd showing for the game, and 1st for Scarlett. I cant ascertain much to compare it to previous 313 efforts.

The Scarlett info was mishandled i feel. Just bullet pointing what Sony had already said just makes it look like follow the leader. Their video to go wit hit wasn't exciting either. I'm sure Scarlett will be a good console though.

Anyways, my point is that i need to see MS showing off a greater output of games (and quality, but that is subjective) beyond what they normally do, til I agree that scarlett is going to easily outsell x1 because of 1st party.

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Cerebralbore101 said:

MS will never announce a new AAA console exclusive IP from its studios. It's Gears, Forza, and Halo from now until the end of time. -_-

MS: We bought a bunch of new studios. Also, we'll be talking about XB2.

Me: Guess I better watch that E3 Conference then. 

MS: Gears, Forza, Halo. Scarlett will be really powerful, and have an SSD. 

Me: -_-

Yes, I have the same feeling. Although I know it's not been too long since they started buying everyone.

Frank_kc said:
My 2 cents, Death Stranding trailer tops anything I have seen today in MS Conference....

Yes. I wouldn't say tops, but Death Stranding alone has been enough so far for PS. The game looks jaw dropping.

twintail said:
shikamaru317 said:

Yep. No dumb early focus on multimedia and Kinect like XB1. Just a pure game console. Assuming the price is right, Scarlett is basically guaranteed to sell more than Xbox One, especially since they're going to have a stronger 1st party next-gen than they had this gen. 

Maybe,  maybe not.  

I don't see any evidence of MS software being stronger.  Looks pretty much the same to me.

The scarlett section was handled pretty badly.  Playing catch up to Sony on stuff we already know (loading, 8k, 120hz, custom ssd) and showing off Halo without any wow factor. 

I agree. It's like yeah yeah we have everything PS5 will have and take this Halo here. Although Halo looks good, in my opinion, Death Stranding and the samurai game for PS4 would look more impressive as next gen than that Halo trailer.

John2290 said:

This has met the minimal expectations of a the dragon ball game I've imagined over the last 20years so it's going to be well above awesome. After being burned by fighter after fighter, often badly done, I had lost hope and I have long since realized the game in my mind can never be created until Skynet level AI can man the job so this is the best we will get and I for one am happy as fuck. Why didn't they tout this out with gameplay at the Xbox E3, such a missed opportunity as I imeaditly though "action RPG, my ass" with nothing to back it up. I have faith now. 

The thought that crosses my mind is "why haven't they ever done this game before?"



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I really think the $15 per month price of Gamepass Ultimate was the biggest thing to come out of the XB show. I know that doesn't appeal to everyone (I'm not a subscriber either), but it really shows how aggressive MS is going to be with their services. Frankly, even though we know very little about XCloud, I'm excited about it, because MS has made clear that they are not fucking around with their push into services and digital delivery.

For people like us, on a VG sales forum, this isn't the most fun thing to talk about. But, from a gaming business perspective, I think the shift to digital delivery is very interesting. The next several years will be full of changes, or at least attempts at changes.