mZuzek said:
Nautilus said:
I think two more points should be noted: Competition and fatigue.Ill name people just for the sake of giving examples, I dont mean to fight or to provoke anyone.
Competition is pretty obvious.Discord have sucked alot of traffic from (probably) alot of forums, since it is more convenient for alot of people.
But I think that, at least for VGC, fatigue is the biggest problem of all.Not necessarily from the forum itself, but rather from its users.Its hard to explain, but I think that everyone who has been here at least two years or so understand the feeling its ideas being dismissed or disliked, of ideas that you are so passioned about and people brushing it off or being agressive.
And I mean, thats no one fault.I think we all here are passionate about a game or another, and about one or two topics.And the same will be true about the opossite, about people being completely oppossed about a stance or another.That on itself isnt a problem.Most of the users can take the hit and move on, or understands that its all a discussion and thats how things work.But then it happens one time.Then two.Then five.Then 10 times.By the time you noticed, you are either so used to the forum or so tired of your opinions being either treated as "garbage" or stupid, that you either lash out, or get tired of participating.
Just to give an example of this:I am certainly part of this trend, having recently discussed with Chazore on a similar level, when he made the topic about Epic buying Psyonix.I am one that dosent care that much about PC gaming(though I do play on PC) and favor more consoles, and Chazore is one that loves PC and(and thats my impression) cares little if nothing about consoles.So obviosly we didnt see eye to eye.But since I already had an history with him, here and on discord, I already started the discussion with my left foot.And while it was wrong, I will admit I enjoyed it.And I think thats one of the biggest problems of this forum.People, myself included, eventually takes things personally.I have been blocked off from Versus profile, I have been called a Nintendo fanboy worse than goodnightschroom(I think thats his name) by Pokoko(why, only god knows).
And that accumulates.And people stop discussing with you, with your threads.And you do the same.And thus the cycle continues.Thats why new users are so important, but they are not joining by the reasons people have already stated here.
I dont know, I dont think VGC is that bad in terms of engagement, but yeah we arent as active as Resetera.But I think thats also the reason why you feel as you do about this forum Zuzek, being so small that you know most users.
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I don't mind that feeling of knowing mostly everyone, I think to some extent I already felt that way about the place a few years back. But there is a feeling of knowing everyone for a while, and that's worse. Back then you knew mostly everyone you were interacting with, but every now and then new users would pop up and it was always exciting, but now? Well, if you ask me what new user I'm excited about, I guess my answer would have to be Alchy. And that's very sad.
@bold, yeah I've had that happen to me last year when I briefly got into politics discussion (because screw the political scenario of Brazil), someone wasn't very happy with my point of view and I wasn't very happy with his. It wasn't too pretty, but let's just say he gave me minimal points on every round of the greatest user tournament this year. 
I've also had that to a lesser degree, of feeling like no one cares or agrees with something you're highly enthusiastic about, with Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, of course. But I've had that everywhere on the internet, so I've grown resistant to it. I can only pity the poor souls who cannot understand the brilliance of that movie.
...we need new people.
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