PS5 will support 8K graphics mean no mid gen upgrade.

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Fair enough.  I think we are having a communication difficulty anyway.  I am not sure how "red flag" is an absolute term.  It seems like an indefinite term to me.

There is a reason why the PC does not use NAND as a high traffic swap cache, and that has to do with the limited number of write cycles that NAND is limited to, which is overcome in Optane.

PS3 was too much at $499 in 2006, let alone the premium unit at $599, I think the majority agree with that.

PS4 was highly affordable at $399 in 2013, along with the $399 Pro in 2016. People seemed to be fairly happy with PS4 but not quite as pleased with Pro. XB1X just one year later was the leap everyone seems to think made more sense, but cost $499, and was definitely well subsidized.

So what's the answer to next gen when your existing consoles are on fire and making you huge money, based on the past launches? Make PS5 x86 and BC with PS4, so minimal dev or game problems if any, and split the difference in terms of future proofing and launch pricing. Launch at $499 in 2020, with undeniable next gen features, but features and specs that allow you to eat a reasonable amount of upfront cost for the first couple of years.

For those that want to jump on board in the first year, by all means, go ahead. The hope would be that enough people were buying PS5 simply to go toe to toe with 'XB2' so it doesn't gain a lead. While PS doesn't want a slow start, they also don't really want another PS4 situation early on with shortages and poorer quality assembly due to a mad rush to feed the market beast. Meanwhile, a tonne of PS4 SS (and/or Pro S) are being sold and making PS insane money. More than enough cross gen games to keep both PS4 and PS5 owners happy with full third party support on both for at least a couple years into the PS5 life cycle.

PS5 can launch at $499 and then drop to $399 a year later once they have plenty of parts and manufacturing is ironed out while allowing PS4 SS (and/or Pro S) to have a strong enough launch, making up the difference in the PS5 launch subsidy. PS5 can then coast at $399 for years like the PS4 did, while part and manufacturing costs drop to the point where PS is only losing a small margin or breaking even on hardware sales.

This strategy would work out best for everyone, without anyone being screwed over too badly. PS won't need to hold back on next gen features or over subsidize the PS5 and lose out on the huge money PS4 is making, while early adopters will either have to shell out another $100 for the PS5 or they can just wait a year and still play those cross gen games on their PS4. XB Anaconda being another beast almost guarantee's it's $499 as well, so PS5 will be on par in terms of price.

That's not to say PS couldn't or wouldn't shoot for $399 or $449 to have an edge on XB Anaconda, or be more competitive with a $299 XB Lockhart, but with PS4 and/or Pro still in the mix receiving full support, PS wouldn't need to worry about the lower end hardware in terms of next gen. After the first couple of years, PS5 is now sitting pretty, steady at $399, with a worthy base and plenty making the jump from PS4.

Just gonna post this a second time... 

For everyone that thinks the price will be too much...

1. The PS3's $600 price tag is $750 in today's money. Inflation is a thing. 

2. 360 launched a year earlier for $400 and $300. Wii launched alongside it for $250 with a free game packed in. There's not going to be a $300 XB2 model. Nintendo won't launch alongside them this time. 

3. PS2 had been price cut to $129 when PS3 launched. This meant that early adopters weren't able to get much out of selling their PS2 once upgrading to the $600 PS3 launch model. PS4 Pro will likely still be worth $200 used when the PS5 launches. I don't see the Pro being price cut to below $300. 

4. PS3 games ran worse then 360 games. I don't see XB2 running better than PS5. 

5. 360 had a better library for the first two years. This time around the PS5 is likely to have the better library, since Sony has spent over a decade building up their 1st party developers. 

6. PC gaming wasn't quite as popular back in 2006. Nowadays a lot of people spend $1000 on a PC. So a $600 console doesn't seem like such an extravagance in this day and age. 

7. The economy is much better than it was in 2006. It's unlikely that we will see a recession in 2022, like we did in 2008.

My reaction as well. There's a 80% probability it'll be 16GB. 20 usable for games? Lawl... It'll be 8 for games 8 for OS/Console functionality.

This is just speculation on my part, but I'm betting that Sony will be emphasizing alot of 4k OS functionality for the PS5 where the 8GB will be necessary. I think they'll have BIG plans for the PS5's OS and new kick ass features.

I think more will probably go to games. The Xbox One X already has 9gb of ram for games so I dont expect next gen to have less than that.

8 GB of RAM for the OS would be a bloated OS. No thanks. Switch's OS is the best OS, because it boots up instantly, just plays games, and only takes up 300 KB of space. 

Thanks. If true then Sony is really going all the way with the console.