Jaicee said:
...Okay, except that I've just described like the vast majority of their respective programs. I mean, if we just ignore the fact that one party is pro-democracy and the other isn't, the fact one party is a neoliberal capitalist institution and the other borders on properly socialist (i.e. their entire economic platforms), the fact that one party supports women's rights and the other doesn't, the fact that one party supports gun control and the other doesn't, the fact that one party supports state executions and the other doesn't...if we just ignore 75 or 80% of their respective programs, they're exactly the same! They're exactly the same except on like 75 or 80% of issues. And I mean frankly even when it comes to immigration policy for example, you do realize that the sizable cuts that National Rally is calling for in that regard would only put current migration levels to France on levels proportionally comparable to levels of migration to the United States during the Obama era, right? That's not exactly tyranny, dude. It just isn't. Yes, I hear you though on who some of their friends are, and I question that too, like I said before. I don't like EVERYTHING about the party, or any party for that matter. Doesn't really matter anyway though, considering that I'm not French. I was just trying to illustrate the crux of where I stand ideologically. |
France is already far to the Left of the United States on many of these issues. For Le Pen to say "I don't support the death penalty" is not her making some radical, against the grain statement which will save lives, it is simply her affirming something which has been illegal in France since the '80s and unconstitutional since 2007. That is largely a settled issue so sorry if I don't give her bonus points for that when Macron is currently fighting for the global end for the death penalty. Similarly, I could find nothing regarding gun control so it certainly seems that she isn't really a champion of this either.
As for immigration, in 2016, the United States approved new lawful permanent resident status for over 600,000 individuals (a figure which excludes over 500,000 individuals who were previously in the country, but were not permanent residents). The US population is roughly 5 times the population of France, so France would have to allow lawful permanent resident status for about 120,000 individuals per year in order to match the rate. Over the past few years, they have been relatively close to matching new immigrants. Le Pen proposes a reduction to about 10,000 individuals per year, a figure which is 1/12 of the rate in the US in 2016. She also proposes to restrict access to healthcare and education to the children of undocumented immigrants and undocumented immigrants themselves, and to add a 10% tax to any business who wishes to hire a non-French citizen, which would absolutely decimate the job market for non-citizens (including non-citizens who are legally allowed to work in France). Additionally, unsurprisingly, she wishes to drastically expand deportation in France (what was your opinion of ICE again?).
Le Pen is largely a one issue candidate revolving around vehement nationalism. Sure, that means she won't try to get in the way of some, largely settled issues, but it also means that you are supporting a party which stands on the platform of nationalism. The fact that you are cool with that I think says a lot.