EnricoPallazzo said:
JRPGfan said:
Your assumeing that these even antifa, or are even guilty of anything. They arn't charged with anything, and their released after being terrorised, or beaten.
*IF* these where actually terrorist antifa, as trump calls them, and had done something, surely they wouldnt be released afterwards?
Chances are very high, these are just innocent protestors.
And its all just a tactic to scare, and intimdate, people into not protesting. If you kidnap and beat enough people up, sooner or later, there are no more protestors.
However this isnt how things are done in a democracy.
(Trump can choose to ignore, protesters if he doesnt want police reforms. He should not be allowed to beat his own citizens into complience. Can we agree on that? its not healthy for a society to use force to beat down on the public, when theres politics you dont agree with, they want. Thats called oppression and facism)
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Still... how would you solve the situation?
Anyway yes you are right no government should NEVER do it and those are things that you would see only under dictatorships.
BUT... do we know if it is REALLY true that those people are being beaten and tortured? Does the government has any power under law to, considering you are a suspect, take you into custody for interrogation, so in theory it would be lawful to do it in US?
What they are doing is probably looking for the leaders in the middle of the mob, or maybe we dont have all the facts because to be honest so many, but SO MANY videos are edited to give you one impression that is sometimes very far from reality that I dont really know what to believe anymore. Especially considering MSNBC which is totally biased.
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Then its a good thing you have the most transparent president ever! in US history, trumps own words.
Except you cant know about his tax papers (tax evasion?).
You cannot have hearings with witnesses against him.
You cant even know his school grades.
You can trust the president, thats told 20,000+ lies, and him when he says all the other stuff is just fakenews.
This is the point of all his lies, and fakenew stuff.
To make people like you question, what is real or not.
So he can get away with acting however he likes, because his voter base, dont believe in the news anymore.
(Trump will point you towards, foxnews, for some propaganda, thats much easier to believe in).
Also Unmarked task force, that wont indentify themselves, wont tell you why they are detaining you, wont read you your rights, wont tell you (or others) where they are taking you, ect ect.
You can totally trust them....
Or not, perphaps thats why most places they require them to do such things?
"BUT... do we know if it is REALLY true that those people are being beaten and tortured?"
You have seen videos of peacefull protestors, not doing anything, just standing in the street.
Being attacked by cops for no reason.
What makes you think they act better, when theres no one around to video tape it?
When theres no way at all, to hold anyone accountable for their actions?
Last edited by JRPGfan - on 21 July 2020