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EricHiggin on 19 February 2020
SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

So I have to repost this then, I guess?

So you don't have a purpose other than to disrupt functional dialog.  And you don't have an idea for reducing climate change nor providing adequate power.

And you clearly have no idea how a solar farm functions nor what nuclear fusion is.

So when you repost something 'relevant' it's obviously useful, but if I do, it's clearly disrupting? Hmm...

Please, by all means then, explain. It would be quite embarrassing if both of us knew nothing...



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PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

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sundin13 on 19 February 2020
EricHiggin said:
Ka-pi96 said:

That's what I was asking you...

Yes. If your boss gave you an illegitimate ultimatum of getting fired or getting kicked in the nuts, either or, you don't pick one. You quit. Picking one just makes the situation worse for you and everyone else. If the candidates all suck, then don't vote, and force the parties to put forward worthy people. Simply buying whatever is up for sale is a recipe for disaster.

Not the best metaphor (as per usual). Most American's don't have the option of "quitting" the country. You are going to live in it one way or the other. Same with "buying". If you don't choose the lesser of two evil's your "money" is still going to the person who wins.

If you want to use that metaphor, it would me more like, if there are two things up for sale and you choose to buy neither, a group of idiots will make the decision for you and pay for it with your money.

You really need to stop with the metaphors...



EricHiggin on 19 February 2020
sundin13 said:
EricHiggin said:

Yes. If your boss gave you an illegitimate ultimatum of getting fired or getting kicked in the nuts, either or, you don't pick one. You quit. Picking one just makes the situation worse for you and everyone else. If the candidates all suck, then don't vote, and force the parties to put forward worthy people. Simply buying whatever is up for sale is a recipe for disaster.

Not the best metaphor (as per usual). Most American's don't have the option of "quitting" the country. You are going to live in it one way or the other. Same with "buying". If you don't choose the lesser of two evil's your "money" is still going to the person who wins.

If you want to use that metaphor, it would me more like, if there are two things up for sale and you choose to buy neither, a group of idiots will make the decision for you and pay for it with your money.

You really need to stop with the metaphors...

So the world should have kept building reactors based on the Chernobyl plant design and allowed the same disaster to happen over and over because going against it and stopping it would be a waste of time? We should just let the powers that be do whatever they want because they will anyway?

Yet you offered one just as bad if not worse. Maybe you should take your own advice, or does it only apply to others?



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

EricHiggin on 19 February 2020
Bofferbrauer2 said:
EricHiggin said:

Yes. If your boss gave you an illegitimate ultimatum of getting fired or getting kicked in the nuts, either or, you don't pick one. You quit. Picking one just makes the situation worse for you and everyone else. If the candidates all suck, then don't vote, and force the parties to put forward worthy people. Simply buying whatever is up for sale is a recipe for disaster.

I wish republicans would do that for once. They apparently buy everything Trump and his cronies are saying without even thinking or doublechecking their claims.

But this is also why Trump got voted in in the first place. Only the more ardent supporters voted in the last election, and on that, the republicans had more in key areas... 

There's a big difference between buying everything that's sold to you, and looking for a car you need asap that doesn't exist, so you buy the best thing for you overall that's available at the moment, and deal with the negatives until something better comes along.



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

EricHiggin on 19 February 2020
SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

I was being sarcastic while making a point. Nuclear fusion happens at the core of the sun, which is what allows for solar power. The sun creates mini solar (flare) bombs all the time, which are potentially hazardous to Earth. We are now trying to replicate that ourselves here on Earth.

I'm sorry but what? 

You're the nuclear fusion expert. Explain what's wrong.



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

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EricHiggin on 19 February 2020
SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

You're the nuclear fusion expert. Explain what's wrong.

Do you have any idea of the composition of a solar flare?  Or what produces one? Answer these and then I'll explain what is so wrong.

But...

SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

So I have to repost this then, I guess?

So you don't have a purpose other than to disrupt functional dialog.  And you don't have an idea for reducing climate change nor providing adequate power.

And you clearly have no idea how a solar farm functions nor what nuclear fusion is.

How could I?



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

EricHiggin on 19 February 2020
SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

But...

How could I?

Dude, either engage in the conversation in earnest or stop wasting our time.

Our?

I'm thinking the same thing, but in terms of solely me. If you're going to point out my lack of knowledge, at least explain to me why I'm wrong so I can learn something. Asking me to spew more nonsense so you can tear me down just seems wrong. I could be wrong about that too though...



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

LurkerJ on 19 February 2020
Runa216 said:
LurkerJ said:

Please don't perpetuate that hatemongering idiot's opinions. Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro, and so, SO many other Fox/republican personalites are just so goddamn toxic and wrong and ignorant and stupid and wrong about everything always. 

Don't tell me what to share and what not to share. If you can't be bothered to engage in a discussion regarding the content just ignore. 

Regarding the video, I have had similar concerns regarding China for a while, it's shocking how too many smart people let China become the monster it is today for greedy short term goals. 



EricHiggin on 19 February 2020
SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

Our?

I'm thinking the same thing, but in terms of solely me. If you're going to point out my lack of knowledge, at least explain to me why I'm wrong so I can learn something. Asking me to spew more nonsense so you can tear me down just seems wrong. I could be wrong about that too though...

But you're the one making an assertion. 

The sun creates mini solar (flare) bombs all the time, which are potentially hazardous to Earth. We are now trying to replicate that ourselves here on Earth.

That means it is upon you to explain how you derived to this conclusion.  I don't want to tear you donw for the sake of it.  But if you're going to make a claim, especially a wild one like that, you can't step back and take umbrage when someone ask you to elaborate.  If you can't explain your claim then don't make your claim.

Are you saying that the sun doesn't create solar flares that are large ejecting explosions that could potentially be hazardous to the Earth? What underlying process allows this to take place? Are we trying to replicate that process?



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

EricHiggin on 19 February 2020
SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

Are you saying that the sun doesn't create solar flares that are large ejecting explosions that could potentially be hazardous to the Earth? What underlying process allows this to take place? Are we trying to replicate that process?

I will not answer these questions until you answer mine.

"Do you have any idea of the composition of a solar flare? Or what produces one? Answer these and then I'll explain what is so wrong."

EDIT: And Eric, if you don't know, then say you don't know.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with not knowing something.  The only issue when you don't know but makes claims based on something you don't know.  You can ask if something could be a problem and we'll help you figure it out. Asking is great.  We can all learn something.  But claiming something that you don't know about is where it becomes a problem.

Time to repost again?

EricHiggin said:
SpokenTruth said:

Answer mine and I'll answer yours.

Thanks for making my overall point.

Shift the problem from climate change to food supply, which of course will become the next problem to be solved, because you created it by filling up farmland with renewables to 'save the trees', meanwhile just as many tree's or more are being cut down to make up for the used up farmland and increasing demand.

Then shift the conversation to make it seem like I'm the environmentalist trying to save the world, when really that's the side you're taking, while I'm just pointing out it's not going to work because you're just shifting the problem to something else, yet you want a solution from me, when you're the one with the solutions apparently.

Shifting (the blame) doesn't solve problems. If anything, it ends up creating more.

ST - If you're going to ask a question about something that isn't relevant to the point being made, then don't expect a detailed response to it. If you're then going to point out how I clearly know nothing, then ask me to explain that point to you, well. The point was nuclear fusion, yet you keep focusing on solar flares. Again, you're shifting the conversion and trying to make it seem like I'm proposing something crazy when it's you who's making up the hard to explain scenario.

This was all about the possibilities of clean tech going wrong. Creating clean energy that could potentially lead to a solar bomb in this case. Well the sun does just that, and we're trying to mimic what makes the sun tick. Possibilities. If you'd like to prove how that's wrong and impossible, then go for it.

*ST - If you can't explain why it's wrong, then just say so.*I already asked for an explanation, and you've refused to give one. If you're so willing to help me figure it out, then why haven't you?

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PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.