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What's your internet speed?

Less than 10mbps 15 11.19%
 
10-50 mbps 38 28.36%
 
50-100 mbps 35 26.12%
 
100-300 mbps 35 26.12%
 
300-900 mbps 7 5.22%
 
900+ mbps 4 2.99%
 
Total:134
Azelover said:

I think for Google, the latency issues will be tackled with game design.

Some games, like JRPGs and old Adventure games, don't need a super fast response. Many games can be created around these issues.

Of course, it's not gonna be a great service from day one. But I believe it will get there eventually. Stadia is a very powerful platform, and I don't mean in just horsepower. I think it's gonna go very far.

I have played old adventure games and rpgs streaming and the experience is terrible. Blurry, laggy, and frustrating.



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RaptorChrist said:
ThatDreamcastTho said:

Chicago is also the first city to get 5G. Most people do not get those kind of speeds.

Interesting, I didn't know anything about that. What is the average speed then in the US? I'm reading on this page here:

https://www.speedtest.net/reports/united-states/2018/fixed/

And it looks as though the average speed in the US is close to 100 Mbps, but that seems much too high. It looks like in the last year, there was an average download speed increase of 38%. US ranks #7 for download speeds (much lower at 27th for uploads). It also says that something like 75% are capable of 4K video (as of Q3/Q4 2018).

I didn't think the average was that high, but at the same time I didn't think it was as low as 5 Mbps like I feel as though someone else had said at one point. Something that I considered was that perhaps these average speeds aren't conducted at a consumer level, and so they take into account places like McDonalds and Starbucks. If that were the case, it might bring the average speed down as you can find free internet in a lot of places but are restricted to very low speeds (like 5 Mbps).

The average is weighted because millions of people live in places like chicago, los angeles, san fransisco, etc. Most areas are nowhere near that.



I usually get 16Mbps-20Mbps download and 5Mbps-7Mbps upload.



Intrinsic said:

The whole compression thing wasn't my point but rather Kirby's point to counter mine of how we will need at least 50Mbs to maintain a steady 4k stream.

Well with next-gen video encoding/decoding, 50Mbps is probably far from being a requirement for a 4k stream...



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Intrinsic said:
Wha google and no one seems to be saying is how you will need an internet connection of around 50Mbs to be able to stream at 4k60fps.

Anything less than that and you will basically be playing at a lowerrez or lower fps.

Google said 4k60 would require 30 mbps.

"So with Project Stream [the beta test for Stadia], we recommended and set a threshold of about 25 megabits per second in order to enjoy 1080p / 60 frames per second," Harrison said. "In fact, we only used about 20 megabits per second. But we gave ourselves a little bit of a buffer in the calculations. When we launch, because we’ve made some very significant improvements to our encoder, our streamer, and our compression algorithms, we will get 4K / 60 frames per second in about 30 megabits per second. And then if you are at a lower resolution, you will obviously use significantly less bandwidth."

https://www.gamesradar.com/google-says-that-if-you-can-watch-youtube-you-can-play-stadia/



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Pemalite said:
Intrinsic said:

The whole compression thing wasn't my point but rather Kirby's point to counter mine of how we will need at least 50Mbs to maintain a steady 4k stream.

Well with next-gen video encoding/decoding, 50Mbps is probably far from being a requirement for a 4k stream...

As it stands we are getting 50Mbs 4k@60 streams because o that better encoding. But h, thing will always get better.. but then so will the requirements of which hardware supports it.

the-pi-guy said:
Intrinsic said:
Wha google and no one seems to be saying is how you will need an internet connection of around 50Mbs to be able to stream at 4k60fps.

Anything less than that and you will basically be playing at a lowerrez or lower fps.

Google said 4k60 would require 30 mbps.

"So with Project Stream [the beta test for Stadia], we recommended and set a threshold of about 25 megabits per second in order to enjoy 1080p / 60 frames per second," Harrison said. "In fact, we only used about 20 megabits per second. But we gave ourselves a little bit of a buffer in the calculations. When we launch, because we’ve made some very significant improvements to our encoder, our streamer, and our compression algorithms, we will get 4K / 60 frames per second in about 30 megabits per second. And then if you are at a lower resolution, you will obviously use significantly less bandwidth."

https://www.gamesradar.com/google-says-that-if-you-can-watch-youtube-you-can-play-stadia/

Yeah, that's not confusing at al....... so he basically is saying you will need 25Mbs for 1080p/60 and also that you will need just 5/10Mbs more for 4k/60? that is 4 times the data of 4k.......  don't know how to say all this; or maybe I am just stupid/or missing something obvious..... but if the exact same video encoding method used to get you 1080/60fps stream with 20Mbs is used for a 4k/60fps stream.... the same encoder..... shouldn't that require at least twice (its supposed to be 4 times the bandwidth but lets be very generous here) the bandwidth??

This is exactly why I am saying that its like google has cast a spell on everyone.

Alright, I am going to leave this alone. November is just right around the corner.

Last edited by Intrinsic - on 21 March 2019

Intrinsic said:
Pemalite said:

Well with next-gen video encoding/decoding, 50Mbps is probably far from being a requirement for a 4k stream...

As it stands we are getting 50Mbs 4k@60 streams because o that better encoding. But h, thing will always get better.. but then so will the requirements of which hardware supports it.

the-pi-guy said:

Google said 4k60 would require 30 mbps.

"So with Project Stream [the beta test for Stadia], we recommended and set a threshold of about 25 megabits per second in order to enjoy 1080p / 60 frames per second," Harrison said. "In fact, we only used about 20 megabits per second. But we gave ourselves a little bit of a buffer in the calculations. When we launch, because we’ve made some very significant improvements to our encoder, our streamer, and our compression algorithms, we will get 4K / 60 frames per second in about 30 megabits per second. And then if you are at a lower resolution, you will obviously use significantly less bandwidth."

https://www.gamesradar.com/google-says-that-if-you-can-watch-youtube-you-can-play-stadia/

Yeah, that's not confusing at al....... so he basically is saying you will need 25Mbs for 1080p/60 and also that you will need 25Mbs for 4k/60?

Alright, I am going to leave this alone. November is just right around the corner.

Currently they need 20mbps for 1080/60fps. After everything is said and done they expect 30mbps for 4k/60fps

EDIT : and ofcourse the hardware will matter but the fun fact is you wont need to drop 300/500 on a console since google is making the hardware investment



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kirby007 said:
Intrinsic said:

As it stands we are getting 50Mbs 4k@60 streams because o that better encoding. But h, thing will always get better.. but then so will the requirements of which hardware supports it.

Yeah, that's not confusing at al....... so he basically is saying you will need 25Mbs for 1080p/60 and also that you will need 25Mbs for 4k/60?

Alright, I am going to leave this alone. November is just right around the corner.

Currently they need 20mbps for 1080/60fps. After everything is said and done they expect 30mbps for 4k/60fps

And that doesn't sound fishy to you at all........

Even with netflix who are streaming 30fps videos.....

5Mbs recommended for HD streams.

25Mbs recommended for 4k srteams.



Intrinsic said:
kirby007 said:

Currently they need 20mbps for 1080/60fps. After everything is said and done they expect 30mbps for 4k/60fps

And that doesn't sound fishy to you at all........

You do realise the current codec is from 2003 right? The tech has made leaps and bounds since and the newer versions just cost a shitload more



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kirby007 said:
Intrinsic said:

And that doesn't sound fishy to you at all........

You do realise the current codec is from 2003 right? The tech has made leaps and bounds since and the newer versions just cost a shitload more

I really don't know where you are getting your information.

Google are the ones that has championed advanced codecs like hevc(h265) and VP9.... back in 2003 we were using flash.

Google recently moved everything over to VP9 as recently as 2017. And they started working on the VP9 codec in 2013. And Hevc is even supposed to be better than tha, and is probably what Stadia is using.