I'm exhausted, and am just checking on this getting out of bed momentarily, so forgive me if I'm confused, but the 2015 video literally says "in game footage" on screen at all times during it's run time. The dev that was talking in it was indicating as much as well. I'll watch it again tomorrow. 

Im glad then that its not coming this year. I really hate yearly releases. I guest its just me though as Call of duty seems to be #1 every year.

How is it on track to beat it? Games sell their most on the very first few months. Its only at half of the previous.. With gamepass now a thing there really is no reason to buy it anymore. if it passes 2.5m life time as actual sales it will be lucky. That more people will end up playing it thanks to gamepass, sure that probably true. 

I was comparing horizons with previous horizons, and Motorsports with previous Motorsport. And if you saw the chart, they have been selling less with each iteration. You can say it changes with every release, but its still a simulation, theres only so much they can do to stick to what its trying to imitate.

And like I said to chris hu, being on track used to mean something, not for xbox after gamepass. First thing is that most games, specially multiplayer ones sell the most in the first few months and now with gamepass what incetive do people have to buy the game.

Forza Horizon and Forza Motorsport are two completely different games so even with their regular release schedule they are not yearly releases.  Its on track to beat it since so far the physical numbers are higher then the third games during the same time plus it sold a lot more digitally since close to one million people bought the digital ultimate edition which gave you early access to the game before the game was officially released.  It already has surpassed way more then 2.5 million copies already like I said earlier it already surpassed five million total players a while back.

Yea, I admit That last bit has less to do with forza but my hate for yearly released games that are the same f***ing thing. I used to love assassins creed but ubisoft killed for me by not giving a brake. By the time origins had that brake I was already sick of seeing that every year. And I never played fifa cuz im not into that sport, But seriously thinking theres got to be some kind of mental disorder to thouse that buy that every year and spent a ton of cash on the store. 

Well Infamous Second Son and Crackdown 3 have two completely different art styles.  All the Crackdown games use the cell shaded art style and as far as I know so far there isn't a cell shaded game that looks better then Second Son.

I think this game delivers what it wants to deliver: it's just mindless unserious fun where you shoot stuff and things go boom. Not more, not less. If someone wants a deeper game that's fine, there are a lot of alternatives. Not every game must be cookie cut to please everyone.

They painted themselves into a corner by making this the poster boy for the cloud,  they were under the pump with their forced back down along with xbox being underpowered and kinetic making it overpriced , you then got azure and the cloud being used for damage control, with marketing that explained the power difference away by implying that Sony went for sheer brute force but MS's approach of smart hardware design combined with clever software was more than it's equal and Crackdown was going to show the future in cloud aided  game design now with that message being heeded by one side and disparaged by the other, it became a bigger media target than it should have been ,it had a lot riding on it.So the timeline of delays probably went like this,first few delays aimed at  getting what they envisioned, then all those time delays  lead to the point of no return, where getting it out the door with as much intact as they can manage so they can at least say it's done is the aim.

No, it's not a simulation (the horizon series). Simulators are games like Gran Turismo and Project Cars. Games like Forza Horizon and Need for Speed are more arcade racers. 

Heck, in one of the DLC's, you're doing loop de loops on hot wheels tracks:

For the last time, ITS. NOT. A. SIMULATION.

Also, just checked, and at this point in FH3's life it had sold about the same as Horizon 4. So it went up from FH2 to FH3, and stayed flat from FH3 to FH4.

To the contrary, I feel like I'm having a blast with a game the critics just don't understand.

I've played about two hours at this point and its fun. Its pretty much like the original game just with more stuff to do, weapons and abilities.

Maybe my feelings will change as I continue to play, but thus far its pretty much what I wanted.