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Rate Nintendo Direct 02/13/2019 out of 10

10 22 12.02%
 
9 57 31.15%
 
8 43 23.50%
 
7 24 13.11%
 
6 14 7.65%
 
5 7 3.83%
 
4 4 2.19%
 
3 3 1.64%
 
2 5 2.73%
 
1 4 2.19%
 
Total:183
zorg1000 said:
benji232 said:

Alright, I gathered a list of ALL Nintendo published game released in 2018. Here it is:

- Bayonetta 1/2 (Direct port, no meaningful new content, charged full price)

-Hyrule warriors (Direct port, 0 effort put into it, 0 new meaningful content, charged full price)

-Captain Toad (Direct port, Slight amount of new content put in, Barely any effort put in, Charged same price as the original wiiU release on top of releasing paid DLC instead of it being added to the port in order to add a bit of value, but nope again, Nintendo doesn't give a shit about consumers (New Nintendo I should say) )

- Nintendo labo (First original release, Hurray!)

- Mario tennis Ace ( AA release, Mario sports game)

- Sushi striker (Never heard of this game, apparently was published by Nintendo)

- Fitness boxing (Lol)

- Mario party (AA release again)

- Super smash ( First brand new AAA release)

- Pokémon (Remake, with actual effort put in. Although not developed by Nintendo)

- Go vacation (Lol)

 

Alright, so let's compile the data...  For 2018, Nintendo released 3 full priced wiiU ports will little to no effort put into them and 1 remake, 1 AAA game, 2 AA games which are consisted of 1 party game and one Mario sports game, and a slew of shovelware including fitness boxing, go vacation and Labo.

Any self-respecting Nintendo consumer would be pissed. You're getting burned and spit in your face for supporting them when they needed your support the most. Sure, 2019 is shaping up for being a much better year. But once again, releasing paid dlc for captain toad and releasing NSMBUD with NO extra levels, NONE! They just don't give 2 flying damns about you or any Nintendo consumer. 

Just think about how long it would have taken them to even only design an extra 10 or so levels for NSMBUD and then you will realise just how fu**** lazy they were with these ports. And now, they're even being lazy with the dlc. 

Well your 2018 list is incomplete and why are we limiting it to only 2018? Why not also include 2017 games and planned 2019 games? And how is being AA, sports or party game a negative?

Of course the software output is going to look bad when you exclude entire years, genres and games without huge budgets.

 

All you are doing is acting like your tastes in games is better than others and your opinion is fact with quotes like this:

"Its been sluggish at best for anyone who stuck through thick and thin with Nintendo during the Wii U era."

"Any self-respecting Nintendo consumer would be pissed."

"You're getting burned and spit in the face for supporting them when they needed your support the most."

 

You're telling me I don't respect myself and I'm getting treated poorly because I'm overall happy with Nintendo's output on Switch? I'm sorry that Nintendo isn't filling your every desire but get over yourself.

My list of 2018 Nintendo published games is most definetely complete. I know, when you take a hard look at their releases in 2018, it's hard to believe. 

And if as a consumer of Nintendo, you encourage and don't mind those anti-consumer practices. Then yes, you don't respect yourself as a Nintendo consumer. Sorry to be so blunt.



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

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Cerebralbore101 said:
benji232 said:

Alright, I gathered a list of ALL Nintendo published game released in 2018. Here it is:

- Bayonetta 1/2 (Direct port, no meaningful new content, charged full price)

-Hyrule warriors (Direct port, 0 effort put into it, 0 new meaningful content, charged full price)

-Captain Toad (Direct port, Slight amount of new content put in, Barely any effort put in, Charged same price as the original wiiU release on top of releasing paid DLC instead of it being added to the port in order to add a bit of value, but nope again, Nintendo doesn't give a shit about consumers (New Nintendo I should say) )

- Nintendo labo (First original release, Hurray!)

- Mario tennis Ace ( AA release, Mario sports game)

- Sushi striker (Never heard of this game, apparently was published by Nintendo)

- Fitness boxing (Lol)

- Mario party (AA release again)

- Super smash ( First brand new AAA release)

- Pokémon (Remake, with actual effort put in. Although not developed by Nintendo)

- Go vacation (Lol)

 

Alright, so let's compile the data...  For 2018, Nintendo released 3 full priced wiiU ports will little to no effort put into them and 1 remake, 1 AAA game, 2 AA games which are consisted of 1 party game and one Mario sports game, and a slew of shovelware including fitness boxing, go vacation and Labo.

Any self-respecting Nintendo consumer would be pissed. You're getting burned and spit in your face for supporting them when they needed your support the most. Sure, 2019 is shaping up for being a much better year. But once again, releasing paid dlc for captain toad and releasing NSMBUD with NO extra levels, NONE! They just don't give 2 flying damns about you or any Nintendo consumer. 

Just think about how long it would have taken them to even only design an extra 10 or so levels for NSMBUD and then you will realise just how fu**** lazy they were with these ports. And now, they're even being lazy with the dlc. 

Captian Toad was released at $40. I bought it day one. That's how I know. The Wii U version was $60. 

You forgot about Tropical Freeze, which helps your case. 

You forgot about Torna releasing for $40. It was its own standalone game. 

I think 2018 was a decent year for Switch. It wasn't fantastic, but it had five new releases that any self respecting Nintendo fan should be interested in. They were Torna, Octopath, Let's Go, Valkyria Chronicles 4, and Smash. 

2019 is off the rails. We're getting...

 

Dragon Quest Builders 2
Yoshi's Crafted World
Super Mario Maker 2
Fire Emblem Three Houses
Link's Awakening Remake
Astral Chain
Daemon X Machina
Poke'mon 2019
Animal Crossing Switch
Luigi's Mansion 3
Ultimate Alliance 3

That's 11 games. Eleven! All in a single year. And almost every last one of them is exclusive. At this rate Nintendo could come to E3, and say "We're sorry but Animal Crossing, and Poke'mon are being delayed to 2020." People wouldn't care. Why? Because I've been playing videogames since the Atari, and this is the biggest, most stacked, release schedule of exclusives that I have seen in my 34 years on this planet. If this direct did nothing for you check your pulse. The only way it could have been better was Nintendo announcing BotW 2. 

Sorry, I forgot another effortless port to my list which actually further proves my point but I did mention it when I was finishing my argument jn the last paragraph. Also, I am talking strictly from a first party perspective. 

 

I do agree, 2019 is shaping up to be much better. Doesn't mean Nintendo gets a freepass for being so greedy and anti-consumer in 2018.



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

PAOerfulone said:

At this point, whenever Nintendo decides to show off Animal Crossing, it would probably be best to just give it its own Direct instead of having it headline a general one.

Yeah, I think that could be the case, same like Pokemon.



benji232 said:
zorg1000 said:

Well your 2018 list is incomplete and why are we limiting it to only 2018? Why not also include 2017 games and planned 2019 games? And how is being AA, sports or party game a negative?

Of course the software output is going to look bad when you exclude entire years, genres and games without huge budgets.

 

All you are doing is acting like your tastes in games is better than others and your opinion is fact with quotes like this:

"Its been sluggish at best for anyone who stuck through thick and thin with Nintendo during the Wii U era."

"Any self-respecting Nintendo consumer would be pissed."

"You're getting burned and spit in the face for supporting them when they needed your support the most."

 

You're telling me I don't respect myself and I'm getting treated poorly because I'm overall happy with Nintendo's output on Switch? I'm sorry that Nintendo isn't filling your every desire but get over yourself.

My list of 2018 Nintendo published games is most definetely complete. I know, when you take a hard look at their releases in 2018, it's hard to believe. 

And if as a consumer of Nintendo, you encourage and don't mind those anti-consumer practices. Then yes, you don't respect yourself as a Nintendo consumer. Sorry to be so blunt.

You missed Kirby, Donkey Kong & Octopath Traveler.

You're not being blunt, you're being a dick.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

Now that I have slept on it, and have had a bit more time to absorb it all. Gonna split it into: Two Thumbs up (means I loved it), One Thumb Up (looks interesting, but I want more), One Thumb Down (I don't see myself ever giving a crap), and Two Thumbs Down (Disapointed/hate it)... Siskel and Ebert style (they were assholes).

 

Two Thumbs Up 

* Mario Maker 2 - Best presentation of the show.
* Bloodstained
* Dragon Quest 11 S
* Dragon Quest Builders 
* Rune Factory 4
* Rune Factory 5 - My favourite announcement.
* Yoshi Demo today
+14 Points

 

One Thumb Up

* Treasure Tracker new content
* Yoshi - only because it failed to hype me up any more; I think the treehouse events show this game off better.
* Tetris 99 Free today - really fun, but stressful.
* Undertale Expansion 
* Dead By Daylight 
* Real Car Racer
* Hellblade 
* Unravel Two
* Assassin's Creed 3
+9 points
Total: 23 points

 

One Thumb Down

* Marvel game
* Box Boy Girl
* Smash Bros stuff
* Disney junk
* Star Fox Atlas 
* Deus Ex Machina
* News on Bayoneta 3
* Astral whatever - not saying it will be bad, but I don't enjoy Platinum Games type things.

-8 points
Total: 15 points

 

Two Thumbs Down

* Oninaki (Just found out this is from the I am Setsuna Team, fuck it!)
* Fire Emblem update - FE is one of my favourite franchises, ever; this looked a little bland and a painful user experience due to the poor looking UI and and graphical style.
* Final Fantasy 7 end of March - Nintendo was advertising this already; I was hoping for more of a speel on how FF7 on Switch is 22 years in the making, and it's coming out today. Instead, "Out in a month and a half, take these junior FF games instead, asshole!"
* Zelda Link's Awakening Remake - Really anti-climactic ending (for me at least), I already own this game three times (GB, GBC, and 3DS) and this version seems to only have a new paint coat, and likely a FAR higher price tag to accompany it.

-8 points
Total: 7 points

So STILL 7/10 for me (as I got before), even with my weird mathematical formula that's ABSOLUTELY nonsense! =D



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

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zorg1000 said:
benji232 said:

My list of 2018 Nintendo published games is most definetely complete. I know, when you take a hard look at their releases in 2018, it's hard to believe. 

And if as a consumer of Nintendo, you encourage and don't mind those anti-consumer practices. Then yes, you don't respect yourself as a Nintendo consumer. Sorry to be so blunt.

You missed Kirby, Donkey Kong & Octopath Traveler.

You're not being blunt, you're being a dick.

Octopath is not first party. And I did forget donkey kong and kirby for some reason altough they were on the list I written. Doesn't change much to the lineup of 2018, another port and a AA release. 

 

But suit yourself, Nintendo has changed in mentality a lot since it's leadership changed from being composed of creative people to business people and it shows in their greediness these days. Although, to their credit, they did turn Nintendo around as a business.



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

benji232 said:
zorg1000 said:

You missed Kirby, Donkey Kong & Octopath Traveler.

You're not being blunt, you're being a dick.

Octopath is not first party. And I did forget donkey kong and kirby for some reason altough they were on the list I written. Doesn't change much to the lineup of 2018, another port and a AA release. 

 

But suit yourself, Nintendo has changed in mentality a lot since it's leadership changed from being composed of creative people to business people and it shows in their greediness these days. Although, to their credit, they did turn Nintendo around as a business.

Nintendo has been composed of business and creative staff since well before they released the NES.

On the Switch, we have seen several of Nintendo's most creative titles to date, particularly Zelda: Breath of the Wild - which is a work of the finest art on a scale never before achieved by Nintendo.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

Cerebralbore101 said:
benji232 said:

Alright, I gathered a list of ALL Nintendo published game released in 2018. Here it is:

- Bayonetta 1/2 (Direct port, no meaningful new content, charged full price)

-Hyrule warriors (Direct port, 0 effort put into it, 0 new meaningful content, charged full price)

-Captain Toad (Direct port, Slight amount of new content put in, Barely any effort put in, Charged same price as the original wiiU release on top of releasing paid DLC instead of it being added to the port in order to add a bit of value, but nope again, Nintendo doesn't give a shit about consumers (New Nintendo I should say) )

- Nintendo labo (First original release, Hurray!)

- Mario tennis Ace ( AA release, Mario sports game)

- Sushi striker (Never heard of this game, apparently was published by Nintendo)

- Fitness boxing (Lol)

- Mario party (AA release again)

- Super smash ( First brand new AAA release)

- Pokémon (Remake, with actual effort put in. Although not developed by Nintendo)

- Go vacation (Lol)

 

Alright, so let's compile the data...  For 2018, Nintendo released 3 full priced wiiU ports will little to no effort put into them and 1 remake, 1 AAA game, 2 AA games which are consisted of 1 party game and one Mario sports game, and a slew of shovelware including fitness boxing, go vacation and Labo.

Any self-respecting Nintendo consumer would be pissed. You're getting burned and spit in your face for supporting them when they needed your support the most. Sure, 2019 is shaping up for being a much better year. But once again, releasing paid dlc for captain toad and releasing NSMBUD with NO extra levels, NONE! They just don't give 2 flying damns about you or any Nintendo consumer. 

Just think about how long it would have taken them to even only design an extra 10 or so levels for NSMBUD and then you will realise just how fu**** lazy they were with these ports. And now, they're even being lazy with the dlc. 

Captian Toad was released at $40. I bought it day one. That's how I know. The Wii U version was $60. 

You forgot about Tropical Freeze, which helps your case. 

You forgot about Torna releasing for $40. It was its own standalone game. 

I think 2018 was a decent year for Switch. It wasn't fantastic, but it had five new releases that any self respecting Nintendo fan should be interested in. They were Torna, Octopath, Let's Go, Valkyria Chronicles 4, and Smash. 

2019 is off the rails. We're getting...

 

Dragon Quest Builders 2
Yoshi's Crafted World
Super Mario Maker 2
Fire Emblem Three Houses
Link's Awakening Remake
Astral Chain
Daemon X Machina
Poke'mon 2019
Animal Crossing Switch
Luigi's Mansion 3
Ultimate Alliance 3

That's 11 games. Eleven! All in a single year. And almost every last one of them is exclusive. At this rate Nintendo could come to E3, and say "We're sorry but Animal Crossing, and Poke'mon are being delayed to 2020." People wouldn't care. Why? Because I've been playing videogames since the Atari, and this is the biggest, most stacked, release schedule of exclusives that I have seen in my 34 years on this planet. If this direct did nothing for you check your pulse. The only way it could have been better was Nintendo announcing BotW 2. 

Hell we are still only in February, by this time of last year we didn't knew that Let's Go, Super Mario Party, even fucking Smash Bros were releasing in 2018. Hell when it came to third parties, we didn't knew we would get Diablo 3, Fortnite, Civilization 6, Doom Eternal, Mortal Kombat 11, Crash Team Racing, Warframe, Post FF7 and almost every other mainline Final Fantasy that wasn't on a Nintendo in February of 2018. So its clear to me that 2019 is gonna be an insane year for the Switch. 



benji232 said:
zorg1000 said:

You missed Kirby, Donkey Kong & Octopath Traveler.

You're not being blunt, you're being a dick.

Octopath is not first party. And I did forget donkey kong and kirby for some reason altough they were on the list I written. Doesn't change much to the lineup of 2018, another port and a AA release. 

 

But suit yourself, Nintendo has changed in mentality a lot since it's leadership changed from being composed of creative people to business people and it shows in their greediness these days. Although, to their credit, they did turn Nintendo around as a business.

You said published in your last post, Octopath in published by Nintendo so either it counts or you are changing goalposts.

I asked earlier and you didnt answer, why does being AA count as a negative? Does the budget of a game affect your enjoyment? And why are you only talking about 2018? The Direct was about 2019 games so what does an arguably mediocre 2018 have to do with anything?

 

Newsflash-Nintendo like any multibillion dollar company has always been greedy. I dont agree with all of their practices (i would like Wii U ports to either be budget releases or add alot more content) but the pros outweigh the cons and they are still, in my opinion, the best developer/publisher in the game.

 

I'm sorry for calling you a dick but I dont appreciate being told I lack self-respect just because my opinion isnt the same as yours.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

zorg1000 said:
I give it an 8. The 2019 lineup is looking absolutely stacked from June onward but its lacking a notable April/May game, if Fire Emblem released in one of those months instead of July than I would probably give it a 9.

Well, let's look what non-indies we have in those months, shall we?

April 2: Darksiders: Warmastered Edition

April 5: Super Dragonball Heroes: World Mission

April 16: Final Fantasy X/X-2 remasters

April 23: Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen; Mortal Kombat 11

April 30: Final Fantasy XII

May 21: Team Sonic Racing; Atelier Lulua: The Scion of Arland (western release)

 

I'd say April is relatively fine without it (unless you don't like FF), and they wouldn't have wanted to miss out on Goldenweek by just a couple weeks or even days, so May would have been out of question, either.

And I agree May is a bit empty right now, but since everybody wants to cash in on Goldenweek that's often the case anyway. Plus, Sword Art Online : Fatal Bullet and Super Neptunia RPG are set to release in spring, so they might fill up one of the gaps in the lineup.