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DonFerrari said:

I came to mock the "everybody win" because they are dead last. By the idea of the controller and the ad is great and the initiative from MS is fantastic, kudos.

 

 BANNED: Trolling ~ CGI

How is this ban worthy? hardly call it trolling

With a thread title like that I bet most of us did not expect to see that kind of commercial? If anything it was a nice surprise to see this new high tech controller that anyone can use.

Before I saw the video, I was thinking it be some sort of commercial about some new game that was more family oriented at home were you know we all can play together sitting in the living room (i.e. we all having fun there fore we all win).

Hell it could have been a new Madden ad with new game mechanics and a catchy new slogan.

 



 

 

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Kerotan said:

Jesus christ mate you just can't resist. My posts here have given high praise based on an academical approach to this advert and you still take a dig. There's just no winning with you. 

You're the one that couldn't resist the chance to chastise. 

You can stop playing games Kero, you know where that takes us. 



flashfire926 said:

"Using disabled people to improve their brand image".

What are you even talking about? The fact of the matter is, MS is spending so much on a super bowl ad for a product that will likely sell very little.  Your vendetta is getting a bit ridiculous here. 

Defending others from taking advantage of the disabled is absolutely disgusting. They've had years to be where everyone else has been in helping the disabled, where the hell were they 2-3, no 4 decades or more ago?. They've been around for decades, they've had the money for decades, to see this sort of thing and support it, yet they only do it now, now of all times when they've had a rather large uphill battle this gen, that they would take anything they could get. Why didn't they start this off at the start of the gen then?. 

I've seen the disabled being taken advantage of through the years, and it's absolutely bloody disgusting and even more disgusting to see it defended. 

Yeah it's nice they've made a game, like I pointed out in Pem's post, that others have also dabbled, thus not making it an MS only thing to do in the history of ever. Others have come before them and during their time within the market, so they've had ample time to take this on.

I will not be mired by shaming, when it isn't even shameful to begin with, it's even more shameful to defend the disabled being used as PR.



Alright let's stop with the personal attacks and bringing up user histories. I think you've all shared your view on whether Microsoft is playing a PR game or whether they should be commended for their contributions to accessibility in gaming here. No one is changing anyone else's mind so let's all just take a step back. Going forward with labeling/attacking one another from here on out will result in moderation.



Chazore said:

Defending others from taking advantage of the disabled is absolutely disgusting. They've had years to be where everyone else has been in helping the disabled, where the hell were they 2-3, no 4 decades or more ago?. They've been around for decades, they've had the money for decades, to see this sort of thing and support it, yet they only do it now, now of all times when they've had a rather large uphill battle this gen, that they would take anything they could get. Why didn't they start this off at the start of the gen then?

https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/courses/soco/projects/2005-06/accessibility/firstwave.html

https://www.braillenet.org/en/activities/events/braillenets-anniversary-event-20-years-of-digital-accessibility/

http://www.afb.org/info/living-with-vision-loss/using-technology/using-a-computer/part-ii-for-the-experienced-computer-user-with-a-new-visual-impairment/windows-accessibility-options/12345

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/accessibility/windows

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility



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Chazore said:
Kerotan said:

Jesus christ mate you just can't resist. My posts here have given high praise based on an academical approach to this advert and you still take a dig. There's just no winning with you. 

You're the one that couldn't resist the chance to chastise. 

You can stop playing games Kero, you know where that takes us. 

"rebuke or reprimand severely" yeah well I clearly didn't chastise anything. 

trasharmdsister12 said:
Alright let's stop with the personal attacks and bringing up user histories. I think you've all shared your view on whether Microsoft is playing a PR game or whether they should be commended for their contributions to accessibility in gaming here. No one is changing anyone else's mind so let's all just take a step back. Going forward with labeling/attacking one another from here on out will result in moderation.

Thanks for this I'm sick of it. I'm actually saying it's great PR but also commending them. I know some are one side of the other but my view is a combination of both. 

Conina said:
Chazore said:

Defending others from taking advantage of the disabled is absolutely disgusting. They've had years to be where everyone else has been in helping the disabled, where the hell were they 2-3, no 4 decades or more ago?. They've been around for decades, they've had the money for decades, to see this sort of thing and support it, yet they only do it now, now of all times when they've had a rather large uphill battle this gen, that they would take anything they could get. Why didn't they start this off at the start of the gen then?

https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/courses/soco/projects/2005-06/accessibility/firstwave.html

https://www.braillenet.org/en/activities/events/braillenets-anniversary-event-20-years-of-digital-accessibility/

http://www.afb.org/info/living-with-vision-loss/using-technology/using-a-computer/part-ii-for-the-experienced-computer-user-with-a-new-visual-impairment/windows-accessibility-options/12345

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/accessibility/windows

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility

Yeah I think you just put that issue to bed. MS should be commended for this move whether it was PR or not. I hope Sony and Ninty follow suit. 



Kerotan said:
trasharmdsister12 said:
Alright let's stop with the personal attacks and bringing up user histories. I think you've all shared your view on whether Microsoft is playing a PR game or whether they should be commended for their contributions to accessibility in gaming here. No one is changing anyone else's mind so let's all just take a step back. Going forward with labeling/attacking one another from here on out will result in moderation.

Thanks for this I'm sick of it. I'm actually saying it's great PR but also commending them. I know some are one side of the other but my view is a combination of both. 

Quoting me to get a final say isn't a pass. Stop now.



Cobretti2 said: How is this ban worthy? hardly call it trolling

With a thread title like that I bet most of us did not expect to see that kind of commercial? If anything it was a nice surprise to see this new high tech controller that anyone can use.

Before I saw the video, I was thinking it be some sort of commercial about some new game that was more family oriented at home were you know we all can play together sitting in the living room (i.e. we all having fun there fore we all win).

Hell it could have been a new Madden ad with new game mechanics and a catchy new slogan.

 

I was on the ropes about that as well, but I guess you shouldn't admit you came into a thread to stir shit up.



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Chazore said:

Why does it kill your motivation?. Going by your later logic, surely it wouldn't matter and be a good thing right?. I'm not a fan of religion myself, but a few of my friends are religious and I support them for their choices either way (just as long as they don't try to convert me).

I am an ardent Atheist. Either way, it's a discussion for another day. They simply will not get my support.

Chazore said:

Kickstarting, I dunno, I'm sure throughout history has at least designed a controller for the slightly disabled.

Edit: after some checking, it seems there have been gamepads and mods made for the disabled over the years: https://www.ranker.com/list/video-game-controllers-for-people-with-disabilities/nathan-gibson So this isn't exactly a first ever thing to be done before. Likely the first ever Superbowl ad for something like this, but we shouldn't put the ad above the act itself, an act already done before by others out there.

Of course it'll help their image, I wasn't expecting it to backfire or damage their image.

Oh yeah. There has been tons of attempts at making things accessible to the disabled over the years.
The Nintendo Wii was a big inroad to that as well.

Chazore said:

I to come from a similar background (two residential homes, owned in the past by my folks). I'm aware it's nothing new, but that doesn't mean it's alright for any company to make prime use of the disabled, like an upcoming president campaigner does when using someone's baby for PR.

End of the day it's great that the disabled get more going for them. I just wish these companies displayed this level of caring a decade or two ago, because to me it doesn't feel genuine, it feels like using them, and no one likes the disabled being taken advantage of PR or not.

It's a catch 22. Those with disabilities can often be under-represented and thus go unnoticed by the general community.
And I agree, it would have been good to see them start making inroads decades ago, but for whatever reasons... Didn't happen.

And to be fair, they have been supporting those with disabilities on Windows since the early 90's.

But on the flipside, it's happening now and credit should be given where credit is due, it's always easy for everyone to simply hate on . - Microsoft is allot of things and deserves allot of it's criticisms, I just don't feel this is one of them.



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RolStoppable said:
mjk45 said:

I feel that people aren't questioning the device or it's role in helping people but are pointing out that MS putting this on Superbowl isn't based on just altruism alone, it also gives MS good PR, now while people pointing this out are most likely doing so to try to show that Companies aren't altruistic Saints , it is something that once mentioned doesn't need to  be pushed any further, since the greatest benefit is likely to be found in increasing awareness for people with disabilities to a global audience. and that trumps them all.

While the Super Bowl is broadcasted globally, local broadcasters in each country put in their own ads during the breaks. Understandably, because they aren't going to broadcast ads from American companies that they get no money from while they have to pay the NFL for the broadcasting rights of the Super Bowl.

Super Bowl game and halftime show have a global audience, the ads don't.

While you are correct in that the ads are regional when it comes to live broadcast , there is a global audience for these ads it's just that the publicity is now  generated from the fact that they are Super bowl ads. I live in Australia and super bowl week is full of morning TV shows and news on all the the main TV channels talking about and showing these Ads then there's the social media impact of people talking about and viewing them.