Everytime Switch is discussed here it becomes such personal for some people here that i don't understand it. You become a hater, a downplayer, an usual suspect or you have an agenda of some sorts if you don't align with the opinion of some people here. You end not arguing about the system itself but about the feelings of the posters. SWICH IS A GREAT CONSOLE THAT IS SELLING GREAT. But like with anything in life, we can think different in how good a thing is or why you think is good. Nobody should feel attacked if others feel different about your favorite console.

I consider myself Switch a handheld that can be used as a home console with a big TV, and i find the idea GENIUS for the part of Nintendo but i don't want Sony to copy the idea either. I think it work wonders for Nintendo because that way they can lead where they always did, handhelds, but at the prices of a home console. Like i said, it's genius and the best move Nintendo could have ever done.

If people want to call it a hybrid. It's fine, i can accept it i guess. But to me is a hybrid like one of those amphibious cars they made in Top Gear where they built a car to work in the water....XDDDDD. It worked but everyone with eyes could see it was a car.

It's clearly trying to downplay when its brought up out of nowhere in a thread that has nothing to do with it.

If this thread was called "Nintendo Switch: Handheld or Home console" or "why is Switch selling so well?" the debate would make sense and it would be hard to justify calling it downplaying since that is the topic of discussion but this thread is about sales for a specific week so saying that Switch is a handheld and not a competitor to PS4 was brought up for no reason other than downplay the fact that it had such a great week.

Ok. I agree its a hybrid. I have always agreed with this fact.

But that also means we CANNOT call it a home console or a handheld. Its a hybrid.

Now everyones description of how it is a hybrid can be different, we have those that feel its a home console that that can be taken on the go, those that feel its a handheld that can plug to a TV (both cases still makes it a hybrid) and those that feel it being a hybrid is it simply taking a little of both form factors and combining them. Like reading your post you fall into the third category. 

But the truth is that because its a hybrid everyone is kinda right by how they describe it and everyone is kinda wrong too. 

Now having said that, the NS is NOT a home console. Its a hybrid. So if someone says nintendo is dead as far as home consoles go, that person won't be wrong. That would be true because nintendo is not making a home console. They are making a hybrid. This needs to be sorted out..... because as it stands, when its convenient they will call it a home console, then a handheld.. and when either gets challenged it will be called a hybrid.

I also don't know about anyone being butthurt about Nintendo getting "it right" because I dont really think the people in a sony or xbox camp cares for a handheld (which is mostly how we see the NS) to the point where we would want or wish that sony or MS adopts a similar business model.

I have pointed out earlier..... if they say nintendo did great by making a new type of device I will be right there with them singing their praises. And I personally was among those that felt this is the direction nintendo should have taken long before they even did it. But to say its a home console means we are comparing it with traditional home consoles, and if that was what it was.. and it didn't have the portable aspect of it... then how is it any different from the WiiU? It would have been DOA or not have been made at all.   And this is just simply because it lacks the tools (hardware) to compete in the same market as the PS4/XB1/PC. The tools it has (again the hardware) makes it what a handheld made in 2017 would have been. The unique (or innovation if you choose) is allowing that handheld plug into a Tv while its being charged. They basically took what they already did with the WiiU and reversed it.

There is nothing wrong with that, it doesn't have to be a PS4/XB1/PC to be successful as it has shown. Now why this observation seems to cause issues or arouse suspicions of trolling I will never understand.

Debating between direct and indirect comp and debating on Home vs Handheld is not downplaying....why are so many people reaching? heck I wasn't even in the debate and I saw no hate. I even saw those same people saying it was a smart move and a hit for Nintendo with the hybrid but yet that is downplaying? Like come on people. 

You are missing the big picture. What's going on in this thread is the same as ten years ago when people who were upset by high Wii sales tried to put Wii in a different market, the goal being that if Wii is in a different market, then PS or Xbox would remain the sales leader in the market that matters.

The people who go smarter about this do it by using backhanded compliments, such as "it was smart by Nintendo to make a handheld that connects to the TV." If you look at the post I replied to before yours, you'll spot the compliment that "Nintendo makes high quality games with great creativity" that stands in complete contradiction with the rest of the post. If the aforementioned statement were truly believed by the person who said it, they would have concluded that Switch sales exploded this holiday season because of Nintendo's strong first party lineup. But instead said person pursued a longwinded way to arrive at a different and illogical conclusion that makes it more comforting for them to accept the high Switch sales.

You're completely right in the fact that this is not a thread about Switch. 100% agree believe me. But it's also true, that these threads are usually used to discuss anything related to PS4, Switch or XBO. Sometimes it's used to talk about what Switch is or if it's going to reach that 20M FY goal and other times it's used to talk about why Sony don't want to give deals for PS4, or if PS5 is going to launch in 2019 or if Microsoft will need to buy more studios, etc...

It was a comment, that received and answer and generated this discussion. I guess, if mods consider it wrong they will tell us. But that doesn't mean people downplay anything. The next time it will be something about PS4 not being that good in some regard related to sales, and for my part it will be fine while mods decide it's fine.

But discussing if the success of the sales of Switch is because if it is a handheld only or not..., it's perfectly legitimate in a discussion about week sales, in my opinion.

And many of those comments are tied weekly sales. How well Switch does in December is a huge factor in whether it reaches its fiscal year goal. Deals/lack of deals affect holiday performance, etc.

If somebody brought up how much Nintendo dominates Sony in Japan in the thread announcing that PS4 sold 91.6 million, it would be downplaying. That is essentially what happened here, Nintendo had an amazing week and everytime that happens there is some sort of "reason" why it doesnt count or shouldn't be compared to PS4/XBO.

I'd say the usage is as good a gauge as any in determining what Switch should be categorised as.

This report shows that the split is pretty even with just under 20% using it primarily as a home console, 30% using it primarily as a hendheld (or in tabletop) & the majority using it in both modes.

So saying that it doesn't compete with PS4 & XB is silly as 70% of Switch owners are using it, at least in part, as a home console...

It'll be interesting so see whether those that are being so evangelical about what does and doesn't constitute a 'true home console' are so stringent when the stream-only XB launches (which if successful, will likely be followed by it's PS equivalent) - will those sales not count? Because those systems will have way more in common with a Steam Link than a console...

In which case you'd be arguing that a streaming device is more of a home console than the Switch...

I was talking about CrazyGPU, not you.

It's the nature of such a discussion that people who don't have the same sinister intentions as the person who got everything rolling land on the same side, because they sympathize with one or the other individual point, but not the whole list. Subsequently, the simplified distinction between only two sides leads to people infering that they were addressed by posts that were actually not directed at them.

While I don't think that you have the same motivation as CrazyGPU, your statement that Nintendo is not in the home console business is misguided, because for the average person any dedicated gaming device that connects to a TV and provides generally expected functionality such as local multiplayer is a home console. Switch as a hybrid serves both the home console and handheld console side, so Nintendo is still in both businesses even once the 3DS is gone. Every customer is free to decide how much usage as home console or handheld console their Switch gets, and the only new thing Switch brings as a hybrid console is that any given user can decide how the console is used. However, that doesn't create a new hybrid console business.

If your interpretation is that Switch is only in the handheld business, you have to explain how and why a $300 handheld with $60 games sells so well after the previous generation had two $250 handhelds with $40 games that both had significant problems to get a foothold in the market.

Well first off... you are right. My opinion could very well be misguided especially considering the extremist nature of my qualification.

But you will be wrong to assume that I am saying that because the NS is not in the home console business anymore it means I am saying they are in the handheld business. I am not, cause I don't think the NS is a handheld either. 

I think its a hybrid.

Now as I have explained, while its a hybrid I feel it has more in common with a handheld than a hme console, I feel it was built from the round up as a handheld albeit one built for 2017 but it is by all means a hybrid.

Now that could explain why it sells for what it sells, that could be one of the home console thins it has inherited too. So the same way I will argue that nintend has pulled out of the traditional home console market is the same way I would argue that they have pulled out of the traditional handheld market. Its a hybrid. 

It's so clear. The entire hardware is inside a portable device that looks like tablet, and it has a tablet CPU.

If there is a post saying Switch success this week doesn't count compared to PS4 and XBO because is not a home console, then you're right (i did not read every post, but what i read i did not find anything like that, so if i missed it, then i'm sorry).

But what i said is still true, these threads are the ones that attract more people here each week (and even more in holiday season) and many posters want to add something related to sales that not exist in other threads (and don't want to create a thread or don't know how to do it just for that comment).

In short, if someone here said, "Switch success is irrelevant because it's not a home console like PS4 or XBO, so in reality the mighty PS4 is the winner" or something similar like you protest, you are right and you should report the post to mods if you consider it necessary. If not, let the mods decide.

Well ya of course the hardware is in the portable part and has to use a CPU that can be used with a portable form factor.........you couldnt use it portably if it didn't which would no longer make it a hybrid, that's just common sense.

And there is no such thing as a tablet CPU, there are CPUs that can be used in tablets but that doesnt make it a tablet CPU. The form factor of the device is what determines if something is a tablet, PC, console, handheld, etc. not the CPU.

The Tegra line is also used in self-driving cars, they are not tablets because of that, they are still cars.

Why a statement like that would have to be reported?

It sounds like a stupid statement, but it's not personally offensive or racist or hate speech of sorts.