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Spike0503 said:
Socialism/Communism/Authoritarianism are a plague on humanity. Authoritarianism is never going away but I do hope the other two disappear from the face of the earth at some point.

i wouldn't say socialism is necessarily a plague, since we really should try to help people who are not well off in some way but it needs to be tempered with a respect for the rights of the individuals of a society, which a lot of socialists do not understand despite claiming they do



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Oneeee-Chan!!! said:
Eagle367 said:

Makes sense. But you have to do that anyways(I think). Like Japanese culture is completely different and you have to respectful to different cultures wherever you are. 

That said, this is basically my life hahaha. Not because of lack of freedom or anything, I'm studying in Montreal. But maybe because I am just that way or maybe I'm conditioned that way because my city went to hell after 9/11(Quetta, Balochistan, Pakistan if you're wondering) and I was only 4 at the time. So being aware of my surroundings is either my nature or engrained in me. Can't tell which though because nature and nurture are entangled pieces that work together.  That's why I'm more wary of americans than chinese because chinese drones never killed anybody in my province. Nor did the chinese government bring a war to my soil. We are basically the punching bags, even by our own miltaray. There have been books written about "The great game". That is, all these different governments mixed up in my province and afghanistan and how they are basically using it as a strategy for control. I don't like armies for that reason as well and don't have much respect for soldiers. I don't mean to be offensive, that's just how I view the world because that's how the world shaped me. Kinda getting off topic but needed to vent a little

You mean ,Japanese culture doesn't respect foreign culture ?

No. I never said that. I said when you go to Japan, you have to respect their culture. Similarly if you go to China, you have to respect their culture. If you go to Pakistan, you have to respect their culture. If you go to the UK, you have to respect their culture etc etc etc.



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o_O.Q said:

i wouldn't say socialism is necessarily a plague, since we really should try to help people who are not well off in some way but it needs to be tempered with a respect for the rights of the individuals of a society, which a lot of socialists do not understand despite claiming they do

I would say that capitalism is a stepping stone for socialism. It's like a sort of transition period to obtain our post-scarcity economy to be able to subsidize our potential theoretical maximum production for as little labour as possible ... 



Spike0503 said:
Socialism/Communism/Authoritarianism are a plague on humanity. Authoritarianism is never going away but I do hope the other two disappear from the face of the earth at some point.

You really don't understand those two philosophies if you think that. Authoritarianism is bad yeah. But a mix of communism, socialism and capitalism is ber'st in my opinion. Extremes are never good and with extreme capilatilsm, you have greedy money hungry corporations having their way and a sort of oligarchy of kinds like in the US. Capitalism places too much power into money and people start to worship money. Your worth in life starts to be measured in how much money you have. To me someone like Donald trump is not worth more than a teacher in a school but that's just me. To many people who are engrossed in the capitalistic culture, trump might be worth more. That's one of the reasons he won the election. Because people measured his worth in his wealth. I hope we get to a better system at some point but right now I endorse a balance of capitalism, communism and socialism being the best solution



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o_O.Q said:
sounds about right for a socialist/communist country

China is an authoritarian capitalist nation. It's not communist and definitely not socialist. Get your facts straight. Just because the party calls themselves communist doesn't make it so. I can call myself Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson but it won;t make me him



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Eagle367 said:
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:

You mean ,Japanese culture doesn't respect foreign culture ?

No. I never said that. I said when you go to Japan, you have to respect their culture. Similarly if you go to China, you have to respect their culture. If you go to Pakistan, you have to respect their culture. If you go to the UK, you have to respect their culture etc etc etc.

You are here VGC.

I wish you would respect Nintendo culture lol.



This kind of stuff makes me worried about Epic making their own store. It might seem unrelated, but considering Epic is owned by Tencent, and they are deeply in bed with the Chinese gobernment, this kind of censorship could be also seen in the West if they become big enough.



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fatslob-:O said:
Eagle367 said:

Makes sense. But you have to do that anyways(I think). Like Japanese culture is completely different and you have to respectful to different cultures wherever you are. 

That said, this is basically my life hahaha. Not because of lack of freedom or anything, I'm studying in Montreal. But maybe because I am just that way or maybe I'm conditioned that way because my city went to hell after 9/11(Quetta, Balochistan, Pakistan if you're wondering) and I was only 4 at the time. So being aware of my surroundings is either my nature or engrained in me. Can't tell which though because nature and nurture are entangled pieces that work together.  That's why I'm more wary of americans than chinese because chinese drones never killed anybody in my province. Nor did the chinese government bring a war to my soil. We are basically the punching bags, even by our own miltaray. There have been books written about "The great game". That is, all these different governments mixed up in my province and afghanistan and how they are basically using it as a strategy for control. I don't like armies for that reason as well and don't have much respect for soldiers. I don't mean to be offensive, that's just how I view the world because that's how the world shaped me. Kinda getting off topic but needed to vent a little

This maybe off topic but ... 

While US intervention is not ideal in dozens of cases, Pakistan is a straight up irredeemable state. Trump will right the past wrongs you see and grant you your wish by letting Pakistan fall into political disrepair just as you see from Saudi Arabia or other middle eastern nations considering that the US was the only one with adult supervision in that whole affair ... 

Given that China and Pakistan borders between each other along with the fact the US is at the other side of the earth, it is China that should be feared since they have a cutthroat foreign policy going by their relations with Vietnam. Vietnam was once a potential geopolitical ally for China after the vietnamese civil war but that came to an abrupt end after Vietnam decided to side with the USSR instead and to this day China still threatens Vietnam with war, however this time their going to bar the vietnamese from access to the South China Seas so I'm willing to bet the vietnamese wish they could get military aid from the US ... 

The fact that Pakistan is squandering it's only possible counterbalance against China, they are going to be shit out of luck if they face a chinese invasion on hand just like the vietnamese without an option for a deterrent but I guess siphoning cash out of America is more valuable to them than long-term stability and an alliance with a superpower ... 

I disagree. You probably don't know the relationship between Pakistan and US but I've lived it. The US used Pakistan like a tissue with it's war against the USSR and then threw Pakistan away. Again they needed Pakistan in the "war against terror" and again threw Pakistan away like a used tissue. The US never considered Pakistan as an allyaand only as a tool to be used. But Pakistan never learned it's lesson and kept trying to form a functioning relationship. Now Pakistan is tired. Because Pakistan has lost 1000s of times more than it's gained with trying to make a partnership with the US. We've lost in lives and in money. The measely aid given is easily lost considering how much money we've lost. And the US never wanted a resolution to the Afghanistan war because only the US military complex gained from it. Profit is all the motive for them. US was never "adult supervision" The US was a parasite and a leech to the middle East. And I agree Pakistan should only rely on itself and not other nations whether US or China.

But the relationship between Pakistan and China is a unique one. You see Pakistan was doing really good in the 60s before the Afghanistan mess, and formation of Bangladesh and all that. While China was not doing so hot. Pakistan was the first one to help China and also one of the very few who fought for China to be included in the UN. Now China is a huge beast and at least to Pakistan, wants to help the country that helped it in it's time of need. China might be using that relationship to it's advantage, I don't know since I am not Chinese leadership.

The entire point though is that Pakistan cannot trust US because US will constantly betray us like they always have. Because the US does not respect smaller nations and their right to sovereignty and does not want partnerships but rather wants countries to bow down to them. China  has a more nuance approach and our businessmen. The US I'm sure would've destroyed Pakistan like it did Iraq, Afghanistan and so many others if we didn't have nukes.

Pakistan is reaching a breaking point where the military is not as strong as it once was and is desperately trying to maintain it's power, Pakistan is realising it cannot trust western powers because they will betray us and Pakistan has to be smart about China and CPEC. If it somehow manages to survive it's military gone mad, China's sly business tactics and the pressure of the Americans on the international stage, we will come out stronger than ever. We can make Gwadar a really big thing and if we start ruling our military instead of the military ruling us, we can treat Balochistan and all other provinces with respect and may rise up to be what was envisioned by our founding father. But on the flip side we might crash and burn and have to wait decades for another opportunity to rise up. I don't tjint Pakistan as a nation will end anytime soon, but the time is approaching for Pakistan to make it or break it.



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Oneeee-Chan!!! said:
Eagle367 said:

No. I never said that. I said when you go to Japan, you have to respect their culture. Similarly if you go to China, you have to respect their culture. If you go to Pakistan, you have to respect their culture. If you go to the UK, you have to respect their culture etc etc etc.

You are here VGC.

I wish you would respect Nintendo culture lol.

When have I disrespected that hahahaha



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fatslob-:O said:
o_O.Q said:

i wouldn't say socialism is necessarily a plague, since we really should try to help people who are not well off in some way but it needs to be tempered with a respect for the rights of the individuals of a society, which a lot of socialists do not understand despite claiming they do

I would say that capitalism is a stepping stone for socialism. It's like a sort of transition period to obtain our post-scarcity economy to be able to subsidize our potential theoretical maximum production for as little labour as possible ... 

"post-scarcity economy"

at this point this is a theory, the facts we have on the ground right now is that to maintain our way of life we have to work and that any sensible person would rather retain their autonomy than have the government control how they live their lives