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OTBWY said:
quickrick said:

thats one thing i been wrong on  and i changed my prediction like a year ago to flat. since then i been mostly right on my predictions and 3 for 3 on my bets.

It's easy to change your bets and predictions later on when you know they aren't going the way you thought it would. Again.

what am i suppose to do? not understanding  your point? so if i get a prediction wrong i can't make predictions anymore? as for he bets i never changed  them, they were all one fairly and never changed anything infact both have them had huge advantages because January had 5 weeks in 2018.



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quickrick said:
SKMBlake said:

Not the "Pokémon didn't make the 3DS to sell" argument again. Yes, Pokémon didn't throw 3DS sales through the roof but neither did Super Mario 3D World for the Wii U, nor 3D Land for the 3DS. 

 

The fact that every single first party title sells very well on the Switch and helps to sell hardware way better than the Wii U or 3DS is a good reason to think Smash and Pokémon, but also Fortnite, will sell hardware like hotcakes.

3ds is selling very close to switch. so im not understanding your comparison.

-3DS needed huge price cut in order to start selling, Switch still selling great with launch price point

-Switch keep momentum despite didnt had any bigger game until now this year

-Games are selling much better on Switch than they did on 3DS

 

So point that maybe something didn't had big effect on 3DS doesn't mean same goes for Switch, they are quite different.

 

 

quickrick said: 

any way we are basically a month away from the holidays., and when switch sales are similar to last year, all im gonna say is i told you so.

quickrick said: 
SKMBlake said: 

We're still waiting you to show us your famous cliff you were mentioning :p

thats one thing i been wrong on  and i changed my prediction like a year ago to flat. since then i been mostly right on my predictions and 3 for 3 on my bets.

You were also recently saying that Switch is losing momentum.



Miyamotoo said:
quickrick said:

3ds is selling very close to switch. so im not understanding your comparison.

-3DS needed huge price cut in order to start selling, Switch still selling great with launch price point

-Switch keep momentum despite didnt had any bigger game until now this year

-Games are selling much better on Switch than they did on 3DS

 

So point that maybe something didn't had big effect on 3DS doesn't mean same goes for Switch, they are quite different.

 

 

quickrick said: 

any way we are basically a month away from the holidays., and when switch sales are similar to last year, all im gonna say is i told you so.

quickrick said: 

thats one thing i been wrong on  and i changed my prediction like a year ago to flat. since then i been mostly right on my predictions and 3 for 3 on my bets.

You were also recently saying that Switch is losing momentum.

on npd it sure  was,  and it probably still is my guess is nintendo has 1 million sitting on store shelves compared to last year q2.



quickrick said:
OTBWY said:

It's easy to change your bets and predictions later on when you know they aren't going the way you thought it would. Again.

what am i suppose to do? not understanding  your point? so if i get a prediction wrong i can't make predictions anymore? as for he bets i never changed  them, they were all one fairly and never changed anything infact both have them had huge advantages because January had 5 weeks in 2018.

The fact that you doubled down on your cliff comment not too long ago and decided to just now say that you were wrong about is being dishonest. But sure, if you think it won't fall of a cliff in 2018 anymore, own up to it so we can be less serious about your predictions from now on, like the one where you said the Switch won't outsell the Xbox One (if that was serious).

"what am i suppose to do?"

You're asking the wrong person. Trust me.



quickrick said:
SKMBlake said:

We're still waiting you to show us your famous cliff you were mentioning :p

thats one thing i been wrong on  and i changed my prediction like a year ago to flat. since then i been mostly right on my predictions and 3 for 3 on my bets.

The problem is that your predictions are very vague. Like right now you said "the sales will be similar to last year". If I recall, the Switch sold 15,04 last fiscal year, so you could say you were right if it sells 16,5 millions by the end of the fiscal year, because it's similar from a certain point of view.



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quickrick said:
Miyamotoo said:

-3DS needed huge price cut in order to start selling, Switch still selling great with launch price point

-Switch keep momentum despite didnt had any bigger game until now this year

-Games are selling much better on Switch than they did on 3DS

 

So point that maybe something didn't had big effect on 3DS doesn't mean same goes for Switch, they are quite different.

 

You were also recently saying that Switch is losing momentum.

on npd it sure  was,  and it probably still is my guess is nintendo has 1 million sitting on store shelves compared to last year q2.

Yeah, one little weaker month compared to same month last year is loosing momentum? This numbers prove you were wrong, and Q3 (holiday season) compared last year can be only better.

How much is on shelves doesn't change anything, we talking here about very clear numbers, you cant spin around shipped numbers in any case.



Miyamotoo said:
quickrick said: 

thats one thing i been wrong on  and i changed my prediction like a year ago to flat. since then i been mostly right on my predictions and 3 for 3 on my bets.

You were also recently saying that Switch is losing momentum.

I mean, I don't think that can be argued at all. It's only slightly higher YTD from last year where it was supply constrained for nearly that entire period.  Switch is losing momentum since it had such a long period with very little in terms of big game sellers apart from its evergreen titles. Switch had a ton of momentum last year and it has lost quite a bit. Of course, it could easily ramp back up the momentum with a huge holiday season but that doesn't mean that momentum wasn't lost for the first 10 months this calendar year.

EDIT: Correction, math error, slightly higher (8m vs 7.64m shipped) YTD from last year

Last edited by Megiddo - on 30 October 2018

OTBWY said:
quickrick said:

what am i suppose to do? not understanding  your point? so if i get a prediction wrong i can't make predictions anymore? as for he bets i never changed  them, they were all one fairly and never changed anything infact both have them had huge advantages because January had 5 weeks in 2018.

The fact that you doubled down on your cliff comment not too long ago and decided to just now say that you were wrong about is being dishonest. But sure, if you think it won't fall of a cliff in 2018 anymore, own up to it so we can be less serious about your predictions from now on, like the one where you said the Switch won't outsell the Xbox One (if that was serious).

"what am i suppose to do?"

You're asking the wrong person. Trust me.

the one for switch wont outsell the xbox was talking about US LTD only but what ever, don't  like your attitude so we can leave at that, besides you  will never give credit for all the great predictions i made.



Miyamotoo said:
quickrick said:

on npd it sure  was,  and it probably still is my guess is nintendo has 1 million sitting on store shelves compared to last year q2.

Yeah, one little weaker month compared to same month last year is loosing momentum? This numbers prove you were wrong, and Q3 (holiday season) compared last year can be only better.

How much is on shelves doesn't change anything, we talking here about very clear numbers, you cant spin around shipped numbers in any case.

it was  down 2017 vs 2018 and will be even worse in October, when the system was supply constrained in 2017. npd numbers are way more clearer as were talking about sale through and not shipments. 



Megiddo said:
Miyamotoo said:

You were also recently saying that Switch is losing momentum.

I mean, I don't think that can be argued at all. It's down YTD from last year where it was supply constrained for nearly that entire period.  Switch is losing momentum since it had such a long period with very little in terms of big game sellers apart from its evergreen titles. Switch had a ton of momentum last year and it has lost quite a bit. Of course, it could easily ramp back up the momentum with a huge holiday season but that doesn't mean that momentum wasn't lost for the first 10 months this calendar year.

Wrong, its up YTD compared to last year:

-January 2017. -September 2017: 7.63m

-January 2018. - September 2018: 7.99m

If you want to compared only FY that makes much more sense because last year Switch did not had January and February sales while had launch in March:

-April 2017. -September 2017: 4.89m

-April 2018. -September 2018: 5.07m

 

When we here talking about momentum we talking about sales, you cant lose momentum in any case if you have similar or in this case better sales compared to last year.