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Hiku said:

Hopefully they find whoever did this. If they get away with it, it may encourage more people to do this.

o_O.Q said: 

"When you run a platform on conspiracy and lies, you empower the fringe extremists."

huh? you mean like these guys who took over the streets of portland 2 weeks ago?

These guys do not "hold a top spot in power."
Meanwhile there is a president who has incited/encouraged political violence multiple times.

Trump: 

“I’d like to punch him in the face” 2/23/16

“Maybe he should have been roughed up” 11/22/15

“Knock the crap out of him, would you? I promise you, I will pay your legal fees” 2/2016

“I’ll beat the crap out of you” 3/12/16

And a president saying that certain news media is "the enemy of the people" when he knows full well that fanatic nutjobs such as the one in this story or in Alex Jones's pizza gate etc, will put their life in danger.

"These guys do not "hold a top spot in power.""

oh ok so if a homeless person beats and rapes a woman that's ok right? since he doesn't "hold a top spot in power."?

are you fucking serious?

i'm seriously getting tired of this fucking retarded rhetoric coming out of academia



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o_O.Q said:
Hiku said:

Hopefully they find whoever did this. If they get away with it, it may encourage more people to do this.

These guys do not "hold a top spot in power."
Meanwhile there is a president who has incited/encouraged political violence multiple times.

Trump: 

“I’d like to punch him in the face” 2/23/16

“Maybe he should have been roughed up” 11/22/15

“Knock the crap out of him, would you? I promise you, I will pay your legal fees” 2/2016

“I’ll beat the crap out of you” 3/12/16

And a president saying that certain news media is "the enemy of the people" when he knows full well that fanatic nutjobs such as the one in this story or in Alex Jones's pizza gate etc, will put their life in danger.

"These guys do not "hold a top spot in power.""

oh ok so if a homeless person beats and rapes a woman that's ok right? since he doesn't "hold a top spot in power."?

are you fucking serious?

i'm seriously getting tired of this fucking retarded rhetoric coming out of academia

I'm kind of amazed here, and don't know where to start.
You're asking me if I'm "fucking serious" when you replied directly to someone that said said "The other side doesn't hold the top spot in power at current", by referencing Antifa, who are not in power?
I repeated that comment, in quotation, because it somehow escaped you that he was saying that what influential leaders/people in power say have massive consequences.

And given your analogy, you still don't seem to get it.
A homeless person telling people "Knock the crap out of him, would you? I promise you, I will pay your legal fees” or "they're the enemy of the people", is probably not going to inspire nearly as many people to act out in violence as the president of the United States.

Last edited by Hiku - on 24 October 2018

Hiku said:
o_O.Q said:

"These guys do not "hold a top spot in power.""

oh ok so if a homeless person beats and rapes a woman that's ok right? since he doesn't "hold a top spot in power."?

are you fucking serious?

i'm seriously getting tired of this fucking retarded rhetoric coming out of academia

I'm kind of amazed here, and don't know where to start.
You're asking me if I'm "fucking serious" when you replied directly to someone that said said "The other side doesn't hold the top spot in power at current", by referencing Antifa, who are not in power?
I repeated that comment, in quotation, because it somehow escaped you that he was saying that what influential leaders/people in power say have massive consequences.

And given your amazingly accurate analogy, you still don't get it.
A homeless person telling people "Knock the crap out of him, would you? I promise you, I will pay your legal fees” or "they're the enemy of the people", is probably not going to inspire nearly as many people to do so as the president of the United States.

Though it's nice to see that the "But what about Antifa?" defense is as popular as ever.

People would stop referring to them as our enemy, if they'd stop BEING our enemy.  Stop acting like he said something "outlandish", when it's plain as day that all they do is lie, cheat, and steal, in coordination with Democrats everywhere.



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Kalkano said:
Hiku said:

I'm kind of amazed here, and don't know where to start.
You're asking me if I'm "fucking serious" when you replied directly to someone that said said "The other side doesn't hold the top spot in power at current", by referencing Antifa, who are not in power?
I repeated that comment, in quotation, because it somehow escaped you that he was saying that what influential leaders/people in power say have massive consequences.

And given your amazingly accurate analogy, you still don't get it.
A homeless person telling people "Knock the crap out of him, would you? I promise you, I will pay your legal fees” or "they're the enemy of the people", is probably not going to inspire nearly as many people to do so as the president of the United States.

Though it's nice to see that the "But what about Antifa?" defense is as popular as ever.

People would stop referring to them as our enemy, if they'd stop BEING our enemy.  Stop acting like he said something "outlandish", when it's plain as day that all they do is lie, cheat, and steal, in coordination with Democrats everywhere.

Since Trump said that, there have already been multiple lethal shootings/threats of shootings at news media. Some of whom cited Trump's "enemy of the people" comment.
https://www.newsweek.com/boston-globe-threats-fbi-press-enemy-state-media-opposition-party-editorial-1097347

This should come as a surprise to no one.

Last edited by Hiku - on 24 October 2018

Hiku said:
o_O.Q said:

"These guys do not "hold a top spot in power.""

oh ok so if a homeless person beats and rapes a woman that's ok right? since he doesn't "hold a top spot in power."?

are you fucking serious?

i'm seriously getting tired of this fucking retarded rhetoric coming out of academia

I'm kind of amazed here, and don't know where to start.
You're asking me if I'm "fucking serious" when you replied directly to someone that said said "The other side doesn't hold the top spot in power at current", by referencing Antifa, who are not in power?
I repeated that comment, in quotation, because it somehow escaped you that he was saying that what influential leaders/people in power say have massive consequences.

And given your amazingly accurate analogy, you still don't get it.
A homeless person telling people "Knock the crap out of him, would you? I promise you, I will pay your legal fees” or "they're the enemy of the people", is probably not going to inspire nearly as many people to act out in violence as the president of the United States.

"I repeated that comment, in quotation, because it somehow escaped you that he was saying that what influential leaders/people in power say have massive consequences."

he was speaking about trump's influence on right wingers

my point is that its a stupid argument because the left has been more violent and disruptive for the past few years

 

and this argument

"You're asking me if I'm "fucking serious" when you replied directly to someone that said said "The other side doesn't hold the top spot in power at current""

pushing the idea that people need to be in power to have an influence or for their actions to matter is ridiculous

who then is influencing the leftists like antifa? who is influencing these people to attack people, block roads etc etc etc?

 

"you still don't get it."

i understood both your arguments from the very beginning, that's why i was pointing out how stupid they were

 

"is probably not going to inspire nearly as many people to act out in violence as the president of the United States."

and yet there is antifa... who then is giving these morons their marching orders?



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Hiku said:
Kalkano said:

People would stop referring to them as our enemy, if they'd stop BEING our enemy.  Stop acting like he said something "outlandish", when it's plain as day that all they do is lie, cheat, and steal, in coordination with Democrats everywhere.

Since Trump said that, there have already been multiple lethal shootings/threats of shootings at news media. Some of whom cited Trump's "enemy of the people" comment.
https://www.newsweek.com/boston-globe-threats-fbi-press-enemy-state-media-opposition-party-editorial-1097347

This should come as a surprise to no one.

That's literally the first I've heard of it, and sorry, but I'm not clicking on Newsweek.  If people in media had literally been shot at, it would not be such unknown news.



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Hiku said:
Kalkano said:

People would stop referring to them as our enemy, if they'd stop BEING our enemy.  Stop acting like he said something "outlandish", when it's plain as day that all they do is lie, cheat, and steal, in coordination with Democrats everywhere.

Since Trump said that, there have already been multiple lethal shootings/threats of shootings at news media. Some of whom cited Trump's "enemy of the people" comment.
https://www.newsweek.com/boston-globe-threats-fbi-press-enemy-state-media-opposition-party-editorial-1097347

This should come as a surprise to no one.

"Since Trump said that, there have already been multiple lethal shootings/threats of shootings at news media."

citation please 

not with regards to threats those have been a thing for decades especially with the news media lying to push wars in other regions



This is what happens when you have a president that calls for his base to see people they disagree with as enemies of seeking to destroy the nation as opposed to people that simply don't like their political beliefs.



Holy shit guys really? This thread should be closed, this is not how you respond to what could have been a huge domestic terrorist event.



collint0101 said:

This is what happens when you have a president that calls for his base to see people they disagree with as enemies of seeking to destroy the nation as opposed to people that simply don't like their political beliefs.

huh?

"The right wing and their practices."

"I say chances are there's a MAGA hat in this person's house. Of course the right will dismiss it as a false flag because they're pretty much trained to at this point."

these comments came from this thread, they are the kinds of comments i've been seeing leftists making since trump went in office...

are you in the twilight zone or something man?