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From what I've seen, Insomniac wants to remain as a game developer and not become a game publisher. That's the reason they went to Microsoft with Sunset Overdrive and EA with Overstrike (Fuse). If Marvel wants high profile releases like Spider-Man then they're definitely going to enlist the help of an experienced publisher to put it all together. A top level IP isn't something you self-publish and throw up on digital like an indie game.

So, yeah, I think you can count on future Marvel games being signed to one of the major publishing houses. Unless Disney wants to get back into the video game business, they'll need a publisher.

They just need to make it clear that they want high quality work that they can build upon. Shoddy cash grabs shouldn't be acceptable when you're talking about billion dollar IP. They've got to do their research and not simply trust the promises of an EA or Activision. It looks like they did just that this time around, as they specifically mentioned Insomniac.

I really, really like the approach of letting studios pitch ideas based on their choices. That puts the ideal of a quality game above all else. One of the worst things about movie tie-in titles in the past is that it was clear the studios couldn't really think of anything good or unique, they were just meeting their obligation.

Now, if I were running a studio, I'd pitch a story built around some of the more out-there adventures of the X-Men. Fighting the Brood in space, maybe, or jumping through dimensions with Magik. Then again, the X-Men license is probably a complete mess, so who knows if that's even possible.



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WoodenPints said:
Where do Marvel games go from here? Hopefully away for good...... but I know that won't happen.

The fewer great studios working on licensed material the better so I hope Insomniac get back to either working on more entries in their established IP's or back to developing a new IP instead of easy money licensed game development. I don't mind studios been set up for the sole purpose of working on licensed material but taking away great creative studios from developing new IP's hurts.

Yeah except Insomniac has proven themselves so there is less risk of failure. And then you look at Rare who are perminantly in murky waters with Sea of Crap. 



Baddman said:
Cerebralbore101 said:
Nothing will change, except that we will get a sequel or two from Insomniac. The endgame heavily hints at a sequel in the works. Insomniac does sequels to most of their IPs.

Oh, and roflol at people thinking Spider-Man will ever come to another platform. Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man. Go port-beg somewhere else!

wrong sony only owns the film rights nothing else. Sony sold the merch rights back to Disney in 2011

My bad. Sony published the game, and thus owns the publishing rights to the game. In the end though, it just means that the game will never come to a non-Sony platform. Same relationship that Ratchet and Clank had. 



Cerebralbore101 said:
Baddman said:

wrong sony only owns the film rights nothing else. Sony sold the merch rights back to Disney in 2011

My bad. Sony published the game, and thus owns the publishing rights to the game. In the end though, it just means that the game will never come to a non-Sony platform. Same relationship that Ratchet and Clank had. 

Ratchet and Clank is a first-party IP.  It belongs entirely to Sony.

Marvel's deal for Spider-Man probably goes through Sony, meaning it's a Sony game, and then Sony contracted Insomniac to work on it.  That means it goes a lot deeper than simple publishing rights, which can expire.  



For the best quality, and biggest return, they should stick with Sony for all Marvel IP. Same should be done with Star Wars. I know some would hate that, just like they hate Disney owning Marvel and Star Wars, but it would be best for business. 3rd party Multi-Platform games cost more, and require sacrifices to run on all platforms.

Hopefully we will see Spider-Man 2 and Iron Man exclusively on PS5.



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pokoko said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

My bad. Sony published the game, and thus owns the publishing rights to the game. In the end though, it just means that the game will never come to a non-Sony platform. Same relationship that Ratchet and Clank had. 

Ratchet and Clank is a first-party IP.  It belongs entirely to Sony.

Marvel's deal for Spider-Man probably goes through Sony, meaning it's a Sony game, and then Sony contracted Insomniac to work on it.  That means it goes a lot deeper than simple publishing rights, which can expire.  

From what I remembered reading. Marvel told Sony they could choose any IP they wanted and insomniac chose Spiderman. So It may just be a 1 game deal for now(just speculating)



Lol I can't believe people still think Sony owns the SM IP. 

Sony owns the license to produce live action and animated SM movies that are over 48 minutes long. That's it. 

Marvel (and consequently Disney) owns everything else related to the SM IP except for the theme park rights East of the Mississippi in the US and the SM theme park rights in Japan (both licenses are owned by NBCU, i.e. Comcast).

 

pokoko said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

My bad. Sony published the game, and thus owns the publishing rights to the game. In the end though, it just means that the game will never come to a non-Sony platform. Same relationship that Ratchet and Clank had. 

Ratchet and Clank is a first-party IP.  It belongs entirely to Sony.

Marvel's deal for Spider-Man probably goes through Sony, meaning it's a Sony game, and then Sony contracted Insomniac to work on it.  That means it goes a lot deeper than simple publishing rights, which can expire.  

Basically correct.

KBG29 said:
For the best quality, and biggest return, they should stick with Sony for all Marvel IP. Same should be done with Star Wars. I know some would hate that, just like they hate Disney owning Marvel and Star Wars, but it would be best for business. 3rd party Multi-Platform games cost more, and require sacrifices to run on all platforms.

Hopefully we will see Spider-Man 2 and Iron Man exclusively on PS5.

Unlikely. Avengers and the rumored GoTG have gone to SE and will be multiplatform. Undoubtedly Marvel and Insomniac will work together again, possibly with Sony as the publisher again, but there are some rumors going around on resetera and neogaf that Disney may want to go back to being a game publisher after the smoke clears on the Fox acquisition. If that's the case then it's more likely that Disney buys Insomniac.

Baddman said:
pokoko said:

Ratchet and Clank is a first-party IP.  It belongs entirely to Sony.

Marvel's deal for Spider-Man probably goes through Sony, meaning it's a Sony game, and then Sony contracted Insomniac to work on it.  That means it goes a lot deeper than simple publishing rights, which can expire.  

From what I remembered reading. Marvel told Sony they could choose any IP they wanted and insomniac chose Spiderman. So It may just be a 1 game deal for now(just speculating)

Correct. Marvel did say that the future of Spidey is with Sony and Insomniac, but I doubt they signed an exclusive long term agreement like that. I have no doubt though that short term Insomniac will probably get to pick another Marvel property to work on and they might go for Spidey 2.



Megiddo said:
I imagine Spidey will stick to Sony. Other properties will almost certainly be multiplatform for at least the PS4/XB1 but might also get some Switch love there as well.

It is. Marvel confirmed that Sony have the rights to the Spidey license for gaming. Or something



KBG29 said:
For the best quality, and biggest return, they should stick with Sony for all Marvel IP. Same should be done with Star Wars. I know some would hate that, just like they hate Disney owning Marvel and Star Wars, but it would be best for business. 3rd party Multi-Platform games cost more, and require sacrifices to run on all platforms.

Hopefully we will see Spider-Man 2 and Iron Man exclusively on PS5.

Hopefully not, because it would be absolutely terrible to have all Marvel titles locked exclusively to one console. You're also forgetting that there are more gamers out there on multiple systems than there are on PS4 alone, you're effectively wanting future IP's from Marvel to make less as a result and wanting others to adhere to your, again, warped desires.

We've seen premium quality before on other systems, not just Sony alone and you know this, to make the boldest claim that no other system has produced good games, even good looking ones would be wholly absurd 



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Chazore said:
KBG29 said:
For the best quality, and biggest return, they should stick with Sony for all Marvel IP. Same should be done with Star Wars. I know some would hate that, just like they hate Disney owning Marvel and Star Wars, but it would be best for business. 3rd party Multi-Platform games cost more, and require sacrifices to run on all platforms.

Hopefully we will see Spider-Man 2 and Iron Man exclusively on PS5.

Hopefully not, because it would be absolutely terrible to have all Marvel titles locked exclusively to one console. You're also forgetting that there are more gamers out there on multiple systems than there are on PS4 alone, you're effectively wanting future IP's from Marvel to make less as a result and wanting others to adhere to your, again, warped desires.

We've seen premium quality before on other systems, not just Sony alone and you know this, to make the boldest claim that no other system has produced good games, even good looking ones would be wholly absurd 

That's all dandy but the fact remains that despite being exclusive Spiderman is now the fastest selling Marvel game in history. 

Clearly the quality Sony brings to a title is far more valuable than the extra potential sales of a Multiplatform release.