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Forums - Movies & TV - Update: Latest rumor shows casting for a white Ciri | Original: Netflix looking for non-white actress to play Ciri in the Witcher tv series

Looks like I chose my words well: faux-outrage over a non-issue.



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shikamaru317 said:
HoloDust said:

That's oddly specific IMO.

In a way it makes sense though, Witcher is a big deal for Poland, it's the most successful franchise created in Poland. Maybe the author even requested they look for a Polish actress. 

Yeah, I can understand if they did it for those reasons. Still...

Honestly, can't wait to see first episode - I don't like one bit that they picked Cavill to play Geralt (either Mads or Nikolaj are vastly better choices, and if they wanted someone younger Zach Megowan (Charles Vane in Black Sails) would be my choice), then all this shit about Ciri...I have very little confidence left that it will be any good.



shikamaru317 said:
HoloDust said:

Yeah, I can understand if they did it for those reasons. Still...

Honestly, can't wait to see first episode - I don't like one bit that they picked Cavill to play Geralt (either Mads or Nikolaj are vastly better choices, and if they wanted someone younger Zach Megowan (Charles Vane in Black Sails) would be my choice), then all this shit about Ciri...I have very little confidence left that it will be any good.

I still have somewhat high hopes. Netflix has done a pretty good job on some of their originals. Take the Marvel series for instance, even though 3 of them have seasons that failed to live up to expectations, even the worst season out of all of them was still fun to watch imo. And then there is Stranger Things, which is just amazing.  Of course they've had dud series as well, but since Lauren was a producer on season 1 of Daredevil, which was great, I still have hope. Hopefully they really stay true to the source material, I don't want some kind of Eragon-esque adaption with a ton of changes, I want it to be very close to the books and the games. Hopefully they get good directors for the episodes as well. If Netflix is smart they will go all out on it with a big budget, this could be the next Game of Thrones if they get it right. 

Oh, sure, Netlfix can do good stuff, I consider season 1 of House of Cards and first 4 or 5 episodes of Stranger Things to be some of the best that TV has to offer in last 20 or so years.
It's just I'm kinda not expecting much anymore, given how it's going so far.

As for GoT level - I really doubt it, I think source material for that is of much better quality than that of Witcher. But it could be really, really good if they're smart.



shikamaru317 said:
MrWayne said:

Why do we have to convince them? If the production team is unable to find the right actors for their main characters they are unable to produce a good series.

Look, I also think casting a black or asian looking girl to play Ciri is a bad idea but it's better to just let them do their work and judge it after its finished. Either they cast a bame girl for Ciri and it's a complete miscast and the series is shitty or they cast a bame girl for Ciri and the series is great, then kudos to them and the actress for convincing me.

Because most fans want the series to be good. If we want it to be good, we needed to let them know they were making a mistake. If we waited, there would have been a much higher chance that the series would suck, and that's not a good thing for anyone. I dunno about you, but I've been highly anticipating this series since it was first announced, if Netflix treats it right it could be the next Game of Thrones.

I've read all the Witcher books, I also want the series to be good but I'm not working on the series, I'm just a fan. All those people in the production crew worked hard to convince Netflix that they are the right ones to make this series. They earned themself enough credit that we should at least give them a chance to fulfill their creativ version. We can shit on them after the first season.

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shikamaru317 said:

 It truly is a screwed up, overly political world we live in

Oh the irony, the irony! 



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DonFerrari said:

Didn't say it is hypocrisy to demand changes in your culture while not on the others.

But using your numbers for Japan, so 1,5% of population being not-japanese doesn't warrant a need of representation on their culture and entertainment, so why does LGBT with 5% is needed constantly and in about all shows?

Also no you don't change your culture to become the culture of the people that migrated to your country, that is how you lose your identity and basically how domination was done before globalization.

I've explained this numerous times, so I doubt one more time is going to help.

Japan is much more homogeneous than the US. According to the demographics I posted earlier, there are less than 1million non asian individuals living in the county. How many of those can speak fluent Japanese and how many of those are actors? Unless you can prove that there is an underserved population of actors, there is no reason to demand that those hypothetical actors get parts. If they don't exist, they won't get parts. You kind of need to tick that first box (existing) before you can tick the second (getting jobs).

And this issue that is being discussed here isn't representation of the viewer. The issue is the utilization of minority actors. Honestly, that is an entirely separate bag of worms which relies much less on individual injustices and more on what you think the role of media is.

And for that last sentence, I already explained this and at this point it is difficult not to label this racism. Non-white individuals can represent American culture the same as white individuals. It is fundamentally racist to act like if you are a minority, you cannot be truly American. That borders on some really fucked up "purity" bullshit which I will not be party to.



sundin13 said:

And for that last sentence, I already explained this and at this point it is difficult not to label this racism. Non-white individuals can represent American culture the same as white individuals. It is fundamentally racist to act like if you are a minority, you cannot be truly American. That borders on some really fucked up "purity" bullshit which I will not be party to.

Only a small objection. Obviously, both white and non-white Americans can represent America, but not every one of America's many different cultures.
For example, neither a black nor a white person can credibly represent Native American culture.



MrWayne said: 

For example, neither a black nor a white person can credibly represent Native American culture.

Tommy Lee Jones disagrees 



shikamaru317 said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Tommy Lee Jones disagrees 

Tommy is actually part Cherokee (just like me). Or rather he claims he is part Cherokee. 

I'm sure whoever will be cast as Ciri will be part White. 



Costner wasn't playing an native American if I'm not mistaken.

AngryLittleAlchemist said:
MrWayne said: 

For example, neither a black nor a white person can credibly represent Native American culture.

Tommy Lee Jones disagrees 

I don't know which movie it is and if it's a good one, but it looks impressive. On the other hand, all these Americans look the same to me.