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Forums - Movies & TV - Update: Latest rumor shows casting for a white Ciri | Original: Netflix looking for non-white actress to play Ciri in the Witcher tv series

ironmanDX said:
Faelco said:

Is that a joke? 

Complexion literally means "color of the skin". So her skin color is "ashen white". How can you quote something saying "her skin is white", and ask where it's said that her skin is white...

 

A bit ironic to say "let me break it down for those people to understand" when you fail to understand the most important word in the sentence... 

Complexion can mean characteristics of other things too. It does seem pretty clear in the statement but I decided to give him benefit of the doubt.

 

Why I asked about the parentage. Are there dark skinned elves in the Witcher lore? That's the next question. I can't think of any. Nilfgaardians are white.

The definition of the word "complexion" is pretty clear in that setting, even most settings.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/complexion

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/complexion

There literally is no other way of interpreting that sentence. Unless one suggests that the character who observed Ciri in that scene could somehow see her emotional nature or her body's complexities involving liquids, heat and other measures.

Asking where it says that someone is white, based on the description "ashen-white complexion" is like asking how a car is blue based on "the azure paint reflected the sun". 



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BoseDK said:
deskpro2k3 said:
If only Hollywood did this when making "Gods of Egypt"

That's the thing. White people have been casted in movies and shows for a century now where it made no sense, and no one cares. 

Soon as a non-white gets a role that should probably go to a white actor all of a sudden SJWs have ruined the world.

Hahaha,exactly.Gods of Egypt was all fine and dandy because "it's fiction so the cast can be anyone".As soon as whites are replaced in any movie,there's an out roar.It's fantasy Ciri could be blue for all I care.



How dare they look for a non white actor? Those fricking SJW's. I want all the cast to be white.

Well shitty side characters can be black.



i think it would be cool if they made her transgender or pansexual or at least non-binary



NintendoCM said:

The issue I find with most arguments as to why they would change it, is why does it negative effect you? Saying "why not just leave the character as white", is virtually the same as "what's the harm in making her a person of color". I see this day after day and it can make the video game community really toxic. I think the biggest factor is white people are represented 10 to 1 in cinema and television and studies show other demographics can gain more confidence, security, happiness when someone that represents them is in a film or television project. I'm not saying that it can't get out of hand, in the case of when it has no logical place. But it seems to me like people are making a mountain out of a moll hill.

Theres this thing called being true to source material. Witcher books are based on Slavic mythologies and societies, which had exactly 0 contact with black/African societies. African/black people already have way, waaay more representation in media than any slavic group that arent Russian bad guys.

Also, Ciri's background is extremely important to her story, since she is a daughter of an emperor and a woman who's ancestor is Lara Doren. If you make her non-white, you'd have to also make any of these people non-white which would be beyond ridiculous.

Also, ''people of colour'' are actually vastly OVERrepresented in the US media, given that they are only 13% of the population. If the representation were to be ''fair'' only one in 9.5 actors/musicians/athletes would be black, but theres way more of them than that



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bubblegamer said:
How dare they look for a non white actor? Those fricking SJW's. I want all the cast to be white.

Well shitty side characters can be black.

More like ''the creator of the Witcher universe wanted all the characters to be white, since its all based on Polish folklore and slavic mythology'' Not everything has to be ruined by American identity politics



REDZONE said:
BoseDK said:

That's the thing. White people have been casted in movies and shows for a century now where it made no sense, and no one cares. 

Soon as a non-white gets a role that should probably go to a white actor all of a sudden SJWs have ruined the world.

Hahaha,exactly.Gods of Egypt was all fine and dandy because "it's fiction so the cast can be anyone".As soon as whites are replaced in any movie,there's an out roar.It's fantasy Ciri could be blue for all I care.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/nov/13/gods-of-egypt-posters-anger-whitewashed-cast-twitter-exodus

So let's not pretend there wasn't backlash against Gods of Egypt



melbye said:
REDZONE said:

Hahaha,exactly.Gods of Egypt was all fine and dandy because "it's fiction so the cast can be anyone".As soon as whites are replaced in any movie,there's an out roar.It's fantasy Ciri could be blue for all I care.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/nov/13/gods-of-egypt-posters-anger-whitewashed-cast-twitter-exodus

So let's not pretend there wasn't backlash against Gods of Egypt

Yeah, it's not like if the word "whitewashing" had been specifically invented to complain about white casts...



I see a lot of people saying that it isn't so much an issue that a minority may be playing this role, but instead that white actors were excluded.

Could the reason for this be to improve readability between races and geographic areas? I'm not overly familiar with Witcher lore, but fantasy stories typically ascribe physical differences to the different races to create visual diversity and allow for greater readability (meaning, the viewer is less likely to start mixing up races and lore). If a story is to have several different groups, it can start to get confusing if all of them are represented the same way physically. Utilizing natural divisions between people is one of the simplest and most intuitive ways of doing this.



Weird path society is taking if this is such a huge issue. Let creators make the movies that want to make, if you don't want to view something due to hue of someone's skin, its your prerogative. Can't force everyone to have the same narrow-minded viewpoints