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Mar1217 said:
CosmicSex said:
As far as PS4 bundles go (into holiday season) it looks like Sony is set up to do as good as imaginable. Expect Sony to take Sept, October, and December - expecting a decent fight with a lot of strong Switch bundles though. Unless something crazy happens Black Friday, Nintendo can win November, but it Sony/Microsoft will clearly have cheaper alternatives making this impossible to predict. Sony can always slash RDR2 Pro bundle to 349 for Black Friday week and do a $199 Slim/Spiderman bundle and walk away with this whole thing easily. Nintendo could still win the rev game with its 349 bundles though. Xbox could just completely bottom out and there is NO reason why they wont slack $100 off of the X which will put some live into their numbers. So November is anyone's guess.

You know December's usually Nintendo's strongest month right ?

That's also when Smash will go out. What does Sony have that it would change a seemingly obvious result ?

I honestly think that the Classic PlayStation will be a bit to much for Sony not to 'win' highest rev, even though I expect the Switch to sell more 'actual consoles'.    Without the Classic PlayStation, I would definitely give this to Nintendo no problem.   Now this is another conversation for another day, but those things are selling gangbusters (both on Nintendo and Sony's side).  If you want a conversation that doesn't include plug and play, then yes I can see Nintendo winning this.  I just know that Sony can easily clear 1.5 million with the PSOne.  Easily.

Any thoughts on the other months?



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CosmicSex said:
Mar1217 said:

You know December's usually Nintendo's strongest month right ?

That's also when Smash will go out. What does Sony have that it would change a seemingly obvious result ?

I honestly think that the Classic PlayStation will be a bit to much for Sony not to 'win' highest rev, even though I expect the Switch to sell more 'actual consoles'.    Without the Classic PlayStation, I would definitely give this to Nintendo no problem.   Now this is another conversation for another day, but those things are selling gangbusters (both on Nintendo and Sony's side).  If you want a conversation that doesn't include plug and play, then yes I can see Nintendo winning this.  I just know that Sony can easily clear 1.5 million with the PSOne.  Easily.

Any thoughts on the other months?

I dunno Nintendo will have SNES/NES, Switch, 3DS/2DS, and Smash in December. PS1 will be huge of course but SNES/NES can clear 1 million alone through Dec IMO. 



KH3 deluxe and 1.5+2.5 left the top 100. KH3 is at 104. KH3 deluxe (Xbox) is at 208. Was at 911 before. lol



CosmicSex said:
Mar1217 said:

You know December's usually Nintendo's strongest month right ?

That's also when Smash will go out. What does Sony have that it would change a seemingly obvious result ?

I honestly think that the Classic PlayStation will be a bit to much for Sony not to 'win' highest rev, even though I expect the Switch to sell more 'actual consoles'.    Without the Classic PlayStation, I would definitely give this to Nintendo no problem.   Now this is another conversation for another day, but those things are selling gangbusters (both on Nintendo and Sony's side).  If you want a conversation that doesn't include plug and play, then yes I can see Nintendo winning this.  I just know that Sony can easily clear 1.5 million with the PSOne.  Easily.

Any thoughts on the other months?

1.5 million in the US alone in 1 month ? Idk i think thats a bit much... Its 100$ its not that cheap at this point and PS1 games arent as big as SNES games in today's popular culture.



xMetroid said:
CosmicSex said:

I honestly think that the Classic PlayStation will be a bit to much for Sony not to 'win' highest rev, even though I expect the Switch to sell more 'actual consoles'.    Without the Classic PlayStation, I would definitely give this to Nintendo no problem.   Now this is another conversation for another day, but those things are selling gangbusters (both on Nintendo and Sony's side).  If you want a conversation that doesn't include plug and play, then yes I can see Nintendo winning this.  I just know that Sony can easily clear 1.5 million with the PSOne.  Easily.

Any thoughts on the other months?

1.5 million in the US alone in 1 month ? Idk i think thats a bit much... Its 100$ its not that cheap at this point and PS1 games arent as big as SNES games in today's popular culture.

By that I meant total PS sales.  Not PS Classic alone.



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Kerotan said:
Mar1217 said:

1) It's not available, I've checked it out. 

2) You quote was about hardware sales linked to bundles which were ahead of Switch SKU's. It doesn't matter much when we know the Switch will crush the PS4 like always in JP MC Charts. Sorry for the confusion, my comment wasn't reflecting on the software side.

Software wise ps4 isn't being crushed in Japan. Total software sales for Switch and ps4 are similar this year in Japan. And its safe to assume ps4 digital is higher. So no way is it getting crushed. Total hardware sales this year while Switch clearly ahead it's nowhere near a crushing. Stop exaggerating. 

 

And I don't know why but for me it says the Nintendo online voucher is available. 

True, but

1. PS4 started this year with double the install base of the Switch, giving it a big head start, especially with

2. A third of the software sales, around 2M, comes from MHW alone, which launched early this year

Would the PS4 have been crushed software wise despite those two points, then PS4 must have been doing really badly or Switch selling about twice as many consoles a week

PS4 has only a handful games that really have some legs. PS4 still dominates numerically the COMG preorder charts, but most of those games drop out of the sales charts by their second or third week. This will negatively impact PS4 software and hardware sales in the future.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
Kerotan said:

Software wise ps4 isn't being crushed in Japan. Total software sales for Switch and ps4 are similar this year in Japan. And its safe to assume ps4 digital is higher. So no way is it getting crushed. Total hardware sales this year while Switch clearly ahead it's nowhere near a crushing. Stop exaggerating. 

 

And I don't know why but for me it says the Nintendo online voucher is available. 

True, but

1. PS4 started this year with double the install base of the Switch, giving it a big head start, especially with

2. A third of the software sales, around 2M, comes from MHW alone, which launched early this year

Would the PS4 have been crushed software wise despite those two points, then PS4 must have been doing really badly or Switch selling about twice as many consoles a week

PS4 has only a handful games that really have some legs. PS4 still dominates numerically the COMG preorder charts, but most of those games drop out of the sales charts by their second or third week. This will negatively impact PS4 software and hardware sales in the future.

It's silly to say it only did well because of mhw. So what it doesn't count or something? It's like me saying in December, oh switch dominated only because of smash. 

 

He stated ps4 was crushed this year and he's wrong. All I did was correct him and i feel rightfully so. 



Kerotan said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

True, but

1. PS4 started this year with double the install base of the Switch, giving it a big head start, especially with

2. A third of the software sales, around 2M, comes from MHW alone, which launched early this year

Would the PS4 have been crushed software wise despite those two points, then PS4 must have been doing really badly or Switch selling about twice as many consoles a week

PS4 has only a handful games that really have some legs. PS4 still dominates numerically the COMG preorder charts, but most of those games drop out of the sales charts by their second or third week. This will negatively impact PS4 software and hardware sales in the future.

It's silly to say it only did well because of mhw. So what it doesn't count or something? It's like me saying in December, oh switch dominated only because of smash. 

 

He stated ps4 was crushed this year and he's wrong. All I did was correct him and i feel rightfully so. 

I think you missed my point.

My point was that PS4 and Switch only have a similar amount of software sales now due to having much more early on and basically since March Nintendo has been playing catch-up to get to these numbers. On a weekly basis Switch is normally largely outselling the PS4 both in terms of hardware and software, but due to the huge lead early on it doesn't show on the software totals yet - but definitely will during the holiday season.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
Kerotan said:

It's silly to say it only did well because of mhw. So what it doesn't count or something? It's like me saying in December, oh switch dominated only because of smash. 

 

He stated ps4 was crushed this year and he's wrong. All I did was correct him and i feel rightfully so. 

I think you missed my point.

My point was that PS4 and Switch only have a similar amount of software sales now due to having much more early on and basically since March Nintendo has been playing catch-up to get to these numbers. On a weekly basis Switch is normally largely outselling the PS4 both in terms of hardware and software, but due to the huge lead early on it doesn't show on the software totals yet - but definitely will during the holiday season.

Well ps4 won't be doing too bad for large periods of September, October and November. 



CosmicSex said:
Mar1217 said:

You know December's usually Nintendo's strongest month right ?

That's also when Smash will go out. What does Sony have that it would change a seemingly obvious result ?

I honestly think that the Classic PlayStation will be a bit to much for Sony not to 'win' highest rev, even though I expect the Switch to sell more 'actual consoles'.    Without the Classic PlayStation, I would definitely give this to Nintendo no problem.   Now this is another conversation for another day, but those things are selling gangbusters (both on Nintendo and Sony's side).  If you want a conversation that doesn't include plug and play, then yes I can see Nintendo winning this.  I just know that Sony can easily clear 1.5 million with the PSOne.  Easily.

Any thoughts on the other months?

Talking about revenue, Switch could easily sell more than double PS4s in December this year with Smash Bros (it did last year with Xenoblade that cant compete with Smash Bros), also when you talk about revenue dont forget that Nintendo along Switch has NES Mini, SNES Mini and 3DS. So with all that on mind there are minimal chance that Sony can take December in any case.