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So... how much of an improvement will these cards be in games that don't use ray-tracing.



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Random_Matt said:
I'll wait for AMD, not paying Nvidia prices anymore, my 1060 is still good in the meantime.

Enjoy the long wait to 2021, maybe even 2022, and even then we've yet to wonder if they will either be above or even at Nvidia's level of price/performance by then.



Trumpstyle said:

I don't know others opinions yet but it's just looking bad. The Teraflops number on the geforce 2080 is lower than 1080 ti and more expensive :) so we might actually see a performance/$ price increase. Same with geforce 2070, it has lower teraflops number than 1080 but similiar pricing. Unless Nvidia has some done some nice architecture changes to increase performance on every teraflops this is looking bad.

The ray-tracing stuff we just don't know about yet. From my experience with nvidia graphics effects is they always tank performance bad, even if you get decent average frame-rate, minimun frame-rate sucks. You always turn it off.

Yeah, I was thinking the same. This GPU gen looks lazy to me. Prices are going up relative to 10 series on release, but the tflop improvements over 10 series are only like 20% over the previous gen counterparts. Sure tflops don't necessarily equal in-game performance, but it's disappointing none-the-less. I think this might be the smallest 3 year improvement yet in the GPU field. Here's hoping AMD catches Nvidia with their pants down with Navi next year. 

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 20 August 2018

shikamaru317 said:

*snip*

2070 was also announced for $600 (Founder's Edition), but can't find specs for it yet. 

Trumpstyle said:

I don't know others opinions yet but it's just looking bad. The Teraflops number on the geforce 2080 is lower than 1080 ti and more expensive :) so we might actually see a performance/$ price increase. Same with geforce 2070, it has lower teraflops number than 1080 but similiar pricing. Unless Nvidia has some done some nice architecture changes to increase performance on every teraflops this is looking bad.

The ray-tracing stuff we just don't know about yet. From my experience with nvidia graphics effects is they always tank performance bad, even if you get decent average frame-rate, minimun frame-rate sucks. You always turn it off.

Let me tell you, before Pemalite comes and tries to explain it for the hundreth time, that FLOPS are NOT a real world measure to gauge the performance of a GPU.

The 2070 will probably be faster than the 1080Ti, so you can be sure that the 2080 will blow it out of the water.

Another thing is the price/performance ratio, but without real competition on the high end, they can price their cards however they want.



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JEMC said:

 

Trumpstyle said:

I don't know others opinions yet but it's just looking bad. The Teraflops number on the geforce 2080 is lower than 1080 ti and more expensive :) so we might actually see a performance/$ price increase. Same with geforce 2070, it has lower teraflops number than 1080 but similiar pricing. Unless Nvidia has some done some nice architecture changes to increase performance on every teraflops this is looking bad.

The ray-tracing stuff we just don't know about yet. From my experience with nvidia graphics effects is they always tank performance bad, even if you get decent average frame-rate, minimun frame-rate sucks. You always turn it off.

Let me tell you, before Pemalite comes and tries to explain it for the hundreth time, that FLOPS are NOT a real world measure to gauge the performance of a GPU.

The 2070 will probably be faster than the 1080Ti, so you can be sure that the 2080 will blow it out of the water.

Another thing is the price/performance ratio, but without real competition on the high end, they can price their cards however they want.

You missed the bolded part I guess? There's a reason Nvidia didn't show game performance, you can probably figure out why :)



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Trumpstyle said:
JEMC said:

 

Let me tell you, before Pemalite comes and tries to explain it for the hundreth time, that FLOPS are NOT a real world measure to gauge the performance of a GPU.

The 2070 will probably be faster than the 1080Ti, so you can be sure that the 2080 will blow it out of the water.

Another thing is the price/performance ratio, but without real competition on the high end, they can price their cards however they want.

You missed the bolded part I guess? There's a reason Nvidia didn't show game performance, you can probably figure out why :)

Given that we're talking about a new architecture called Turing, something that we've known for a while, that's something that was obvious from the start.

And yet, you still made that comment complaining about the Flops, so I had to make my comment.



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I feel that RTX is nvidia's i9 segment.



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Kirin_gaming said:
Peh said:

Let's see what Nvidia got in store for PC gaming. Can't wait to get my hands on them. Hopefully they are far more powerful. I guess we will see the result on the stream today.

supposedly the RTX2060=GTX1080, so yeah it's a decent improvement.

I don't see how?

Random_Matt said:
I'll wait for AMD, not paying Nvidia prices anymore, my 1060 is still good in the meantime.

Same in the mid-range.

But high-end and low-end are locked down by nVidia sadly.

shikamaru317 said:

Yeah, I was thinking the same. This GPU gen looks lazy to me. Prices are going up relative to 10 series on release, but the tflop improvements over 10 series are only like 20% over the previous gen counterparts. Sure tflops don't necessarily equal in-game performance, but it's disappointing none-the-less. I think this might be the smallest 3 year improvement yet in the GPU field. Here's hoping AMD catches Nvidia with their pants down with Navi next year. 

Flops are theoretical, not real world.

Navi is just an iterative update to Graphics Core Next, I wouldn't be holding your breath on that one.
AMD's Next Gen is when things should start to get interesting, hopefully.

Barkley said:

So... how much of an improvement will these cards be in games that don't use ray-tracing.

Probably roughly the same kind of improvement we see with every new GPU release.

Need to wait on legitimate benchmarks though.



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