Love my PSVR but it really needs a price cut and more quality games and/or ports that aren't glorified tech demo's to go mainstream. Or better yet, more AAA games with a VR mode like Resident Evil 7.
Do You Own A PSVR? | |||
Yes | 18 | 35.29% | |
No | 33 | 64.71% | |
Total: | 51 |
Love my PSVR but it really needs a price cut and more quality games and/or ports that aren't glorified tech demo's to go mainstream. Or better yet, more AAA games with a VR mode like Resident Evil 7.
potato_hamster said:
Okay man. Thanks for the confirmation. Again, it doesn't really matter if the Virtual Boy took six months or twelve to sell its total stock, the point was that the HTC Vive and the Oculus Rift sold at around the same rate as the Virtual Boy, a rate which I might add, doesn't appear to have increased at all. I don't care exactly how many VR systems Nintendo sold in the first six months, or the first year, the same way I don't care exactly how many units Oculus or HTC moved. It really, really doesn't matter for my point at all. Yet you keep getting hung up on this mundane little point as if it's critical for anything. |
For you it is a mundane difference 0.1% to 0.001%? What about 5M VRs on a userbase of 150M (80M PS and certainly no more than 70M capable on PC) that makes it 3% that is certainly a lot more than 0.0001% even if we took your 200M PCs it would make the marketshare 1.8% still much greater. So we know you are torturing numbers to make your point.
Funny you complain I don't care and think it's irrelevant for you to come back and do it. And sorry but it isn't 12 months, it would be for the life of the system it wouldn't grow much over it. PSVR is adding Virtua Boy lifetime about every 4 months. But let's avoid talking about it.
So the tax on luxury items is what define luxury and not being taxed defines what is necessary? In Brazil videogames are taxed as gambling (so Super Mario is a gambling?), electricity, water, food and everything else is taxed as well so they aren't a need right? The only thing not taxed in Brazil at this moment is air. Also better yet aircrafts have tax exemption so I guess they are basic need on your definition. If basically 100% of developed countries population can have a smartphone and even over 1/3 of whole world can as well it isn't a luxury item even if you can say it isn't a necessity, but then phone also aren't so your point was already null and void.
You don't need to give quotes, give me MS games launched on X1 with Kinect being the standard input system. Because if you want quotes from MS I can show they saying they are improving 1st party releases for over 5 years before really doing it.
So your point on blackberry was to try and strawman, ok.
Reread my quote, read your reply. You are still missing any source that confirm Sony isn't pleased anymore or that they aren't meeting projections. Because as already pointed to you there were 2 direct positive on the sales, one indication of positive and 0 indication of negative. Either provide or conceed you are wrong.
Yes sure you don't know difference between showing your credentials, or at least given correct and factual information versus saying your name.
I'll also suppose that the points you avoided to answer were you conceeding you were wrong on as well.
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DonFerrari said:
For you it is a mundane difference 0.1% to 0.001%? What about 5M VRs on a userbase of 150M (80M PS and certainly no more than 70M capable on PC) that makes it 3% that is certainly a lot more than 0.0001% even if we took your 200M PCs it would make the marketshare 1.8% still much greater. So we know you are torturing numbers to make your point. Funny you complain I don't care and think it's irrelevant for you to come back and do it. And sorry but it isn't 12 months, it would be for the life of the system it wouldn't grow much over it. PSVR is adding Virtua Boy lifetime about every 4 months. But let's avoid talking about it. So the tax on luxury items is what define luxury and not being taxed defines what is necessary? In Brazil videogames are taxed as gambling (so Super Mario is a gambling?), electricity, water, food and everything else is taxed as well so they aren't a need right? The only thing not taxed in Brazil at this moment is air. Also better yet aircrafts have tax exemption so I guess they are basic need on your definition. If basically 100% of developed countries population can have a smartphone and even over 1/3 of whole world can as well it isn't a luxury item even if you can say it isn't a necessity, but then phone also aren't so your point was already null and void. You don't need to give quotes, give me MS games launched on X1 with Kinect being the standard input system. Because if you want quotes from MS I can show they saying they are improving 1st party releases for over 5 years before really doing it. So your point on blackberry was to try and strawman, ok. Reread my quote, read your reply. You are still missing any source that confirm Sony isn't pleased anymore or that they aren't meeting projections. Because as already pointed to you there were 2 direct positive on the sales, one indication of positive and 0 indication of negative. Either provide or conceed you are wrong. Yes sure you don't know difference between showing your credentials, or at least given correct and factual information versus saying your name. I'll also suppose that the points you avoided to answer were you conceeding you were wrong on as well. |
Source on VR capable PCs? seriously. Enough is enough. I gave a reason why I expect it could be 200 million+. What's your reasoning for thinking it can be "certainly no more than 70 million". You're also forgetting mobile phones. Samsung Gear Vr and Google say hello!. Holy shit that's like... literally a billion VR capable phones. Is that number less than 1% yet? I'm pretty sure it is. My point stands.
PSVR is selling 700K units every 4 months? Interesting. 21ish months on the market. 3 million in sales. Work on your math. But again, that's besides the point. I was saying the the Oculus Rift and HTC Vive (NOT the PSVR) have been selling at about the same rate as the Virtual Boy before Nintendo pulled the plug. What's that you were saying about strawmanning? I'm getting pretty tired of having to point out and re-point out how I never made the points you're arguing against.
Hey look, another strawman. I never said that the luxury tax on luxury items is what determines what a luxury item is. I made it very very very clear what the definition of a luxury item is. I even gave you examples of things that are and are not luxury items. But you still don't see to get it. Look up "Basic needs" figure out what they are. Besides a "luxury tax" is not the same as a "tax". Luxury taxes are extra taxes placed on item specifically because they're considered luxury items. Still, just because something doesn't have a luxury tax, doesn't mean it is not a luxury item, but an item that does have a luxury tax? It's pretty obvious.
Pst. You're moving goalposts. Why does a game need to have the Kinect as it's primary input for Microsoft to treat the Kinect as an integral part of the Xbox One. How many of those games had Kinect specific features built into them before they dropped Kinect support? Most, if not all of them. Because developers were required to support it unless they had good reason not to.
No, my point of bringing up blackberry was not a strawman at all. I was using it as an example of a niche product. You are strawmanning me by misrepresenting the reason I brought it up and how I brought it up though. How many strawmans is that in one post? three so far, I think. So let's take a second and make sure everyone knows what a strawman is.
A strawman is when you misrepresent the argument someone makes and argue against an argument that person did not make. Okay. Moving forward.
Where did I say that Sony is no longer pleased with VR sales? I never said it! Strawman #4! I did concede that they did say they were pleased with sales... in February 2017. In the year and a half since then? They have not. You are speculating that they are still pleased with sales.
I am giving correct and factual information, with sources. You don't appear to be doing either.
And no, I'm not "conceeding I'm wrong" on anything else I didn't address. There's only so many times you can address something over and over again against someone who either disregards your point, or misunderstands it before it's no longer worth addressing. I'm not avoiding anything.
I'm not convinced enough to pick one up. Besides I suspect it'd give me headaches.
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When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019
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