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With an image like this, you would've thought of this as a pipe dream back in 2006 or earlier. No way a crossover like this could happen. Nevertheless, Masahiro Sakurai has somehow pulled out all the stops with this latest edition of Super Smash Bros., even when there are more characters to be announced later before launch!

At E3, Sakurai made the claim (before Simon, K. Rool, or even Ridley were revealed) that Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is the "biggest crossover in gaming history." While some might provide another example of a bigger gaming crossover, it's hard to go against the resume that Smash Bros. Ultimate carries.

- There are 32 franchises represented in the 67-man (not including echo fighters) Smash Bros. Ultimate roster, ranging from the retros like Pac-Man and Game & Watch, to the mainstays like Mario, Pokemon, and Zelda, to the third parties like Castlevania, Final Fantasy, Sonic, and Street Fighter, to the more recent franchises like Splatoon, Xenoblade, and Bayonetta.

- There are countless other franchises represented in stages, assist trophies, items, and music (over 900 tracks are in Ultimate). Speaking of music, the prestige of the composers that are potentially involved in Ultimate is also insane as you have known composers like Yoko Shimomura, Koji Kondo (probably as more of a supervisor), Jun Senoue, Nobuo Uematsu (albeit, with just his 2 classic Final Fantasy VII tracks), Tomoya Ohtani, Nobuko Toda, Takenobu Mitsuyoshi, etc.

- A variety of genres are represented: JRPGs in Shulk, Ness, Lucas, Pokemon, and Cloud, Metroidvania with Simon and Samus, platformers in Mario, Sonic, Mega Man, Kirby, etc., fighting in Ryu and Little Mac, hack-n-slash in Bayonetta, third-person shooting in the Inklings, racing in F-Zero, SRPGs in the Fire Emblem reps, action adventure in Zelda, on-rail shooters in Star Fox, stealth in Snake, sports/fitness in Wii Fit Trainer, and puzzles in Dr. Mario.

I probably could go on and on, but you probably got my point already.

Do you think Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is the "biggest crossover in gaming history?" If not, which other game do you think holds that title?



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I don't even think it's a contest at this point. Of course it is. And they're not even done announcing new fighters. They'll save the best announcements for last. 

Last edited by Ljink96 - on 10 August 2018

If we're talking number different franchises involved, Project X Zone may take the cake.



I haven't done the math, but might be interesting to do that and compare.

~Edit~

Looking only at playable characters you can have on your team:

Playable characters:

Project X Zone: 58 + ?? (You can recruit and play as some bosses, but I haven't counted how many.)
Smash Ultimate: 69 (Including Echo Fighters.)

Franchises:

Project X Zone: 33
Smash Ultimate: 32

If we include bosses you can fight against, it's a total of 98 characters.

Last edited by Hiku - on 10 August 2018

Is this a real question?



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mZuzek said:
Is this a real question?

I asked :P

Hiku said:

If we're talking number different franchises involved, Project X Zone may take the cake.



I haven't done the math, but might be interesting to do that and compare.

That is a game I was thinking about as well. Even though very few of the franchises in Project X Zone (1 and 2) have the popularity of even Zelda's caliber, a lot of these franchises have their respective fanbases such as Soul Calibur, Tekken, Ace Attorney, Xenosaga, .hack, and Tales of.



Undoubtedly.

Smash Bros in general is the biggest crossover in gaming history, even when it was only Nintendo characters. Now it feels like an event for a lot of gaming's biggest characters and icons in general in addition to Nintendo's already huge amount of gaming icons and characters.

Mario, Link, Mega Man, Cloud, Simon Belmont, Pac-Man, Sonic, Ryu, Snake, etc.

It's exactly why I wouldn't be surprised to see a character like Crash Bandicoot get into Smash Ultimate, simply because that is yet another iconic character in gaming to go along with the rest that people would love to see fighting other gaming icons like Pac-Man, which is basically what the point of Smash Bros is anyway, to see your favorite characters all in the same game and being able to fight as any of them. 

Last edited by FloatingWaffles - on 10 August 2018

Obviously it is. Not even just in gaming tbh



Only until the release of PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale 2.



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Kai_Mao said:
mZuzek said:
Is this a real question?

I asked :P

Hiku said:

If we're talking number different franchises involved, Project X Zone may take the cake.



I haven't done the math, but might be interesting to do that and compare.

That is a game I was thinking about as well. Even though very few of the franchises in Project X Zone (1 and 2) have the popularity of even Zelda's caliber, a lot of these franchises have their respective fanbases such as Soul Calibur, Tekken, Ace Attorney, Xenosaga, .hack, and Tales of.

Not sure what you mean by "even Zelda" when Zelda is one of the most popular franchises on these lists.
But I did the math now for Project X Zone 2.
Looking only at playable characters you can have on your team:

Franchises: 33
Total characters: 85

If we include bosses you can fight against, it's a total of 98 characters.

~Edit~
Just learned that some of the bosses are playable characters you can recruit. Not sure what the total number is, but I'll update later if I bother to count them.

Playable characters:

Project X Zone: 58 + ??
Smash Ultimate: 69 (Including Echo Fighters.)

Franchises:

Project X Zone: 33
Smash Ultimate: 32

Last edited by Hiku - on 10 August 2018