shikamaru317 said:
mZuzek said:
Making bad jokes is not ground for firing somebody, but racism is quite a bit beyond that. I'm not sure about the Roseanne situation cause I didn't even know who she was prior to the James Gunn situation, and I couldn't care less, but I don't think firing her over what she said and when she said it is absurd. Maybe an overreaction, yeah, but not quite absurd, which the James Gunn firing was.
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So racist jokes are somehow worse than pedophillic jokes then? What a world we live in.
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Is English not your first language or something?
mZuzek said making jokes is not grounds for firing but racism is. One is a joke, one is for real. James Gunn is not a pedophile. Roseanne Barr is a racist. WORLD of difference.
Also, it needs to be addressed, there's a HUGE difference between good offensive humour and bad offensive humour. admittedly both what Roseanne did and what James Gunn did were bad examples of offensive humour, but there's a huge difference between good offensive humour and bad offensive humour. Comedy is not being compromised, political correctness is not ruining the art, people are just more attuned to the difference between what's actually meanspirited vs what's actually funny but offensive.
Take Jim Jeffries; he does great offensive humour. Some of the stuff he says is vile but it's clearly humour and he makes it clear this is a persona or a joke due to the levels of absurdism and the clever setup and payoff to his jokes. Contrast that with casual mentioning of baking jews in an oven or raping children and you'll see the difference between tact and tactless.
Honestly, I hate to give the troll RolStoppable credit but that joke he made about how Racism was about hate and Pedophilia is about love? THAT is a good joke...because as twisted as it is, it's technically true. It makes you think, it makes you do a double take (And since inflection isn't available on a message board he made sure to be clear to let people know this was a joke), and therefore it's funny. It's offensive, but it's a well-established and set-up joke. THAT is the difference.