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John2290 said:

They revealed 3 new studios, a major solidification with a long time third party dev and the acquisition of fucking Ninja theory. That's basically saying they have 5 new IP's in the pipeline if you don't get the correlation. They announced a new halo and a new gears as well as dated much of what we already knew was in the works. They announced the release of yet another playstation third party exclusive, Neir after already snagging Hellblade and coated the whole thing with JRPGs like the tales remaster. Forshadowed the Next box. What more could any Xbox gamer ask for, they certainly have shown their audience hope...more than that actually, proof they are on the right track.

On top of that they gathered all of the biggest games to their conference including many new IPs first, that kind of subtle brand recognition goes a damn long way. All gamers aren't as hardcore as we and seeing Sekerio, Just cause 4, Devil may cry 5 and Cyberpunk is invaluable. Hell I'm a Sony gamer and I could barely be arsed to schedule time to watch the Sony conference now, I will but it's definitely not a priority.

Nintendos and sony's sails have had their wind removed. This can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on what they have in stick and Sony at least have already said they'll focus what they already have. 

Technicaly they anounced 3 new studios, two of those studios already worked exclusively to MS basically, anyway ye that was the high point for MS, specialy Ninja Theory, and they couldve focused a lot more on the games they have and talked about what those 5 studios are working on, ppl aren't buying Xboxes today and they wont buy one cause Ninja Theory has some title we don't know anything about yet in the pipeline for 3 years down the road. Its definetly a step in the right direction for MS tough.

Halo Infinity shouldve had a stronger presence, it had a very quick CG trailer with no release window, game might be ways away yet. They could've and shouldve focused a lot more on Gears 5, their next true big hitter, and also on Ori 2, the first was a big success. Forzas showing was very nice, lengthy and comprehensible. Crackdown 3 almost wasn't even there, quick trailer, no emphasis.

They showed quick CG (or pre-rendered in engine or whatever) trailers of every multiplat under the sun, none had even any time to stay, again Sony can pick and choose some to focus on (if they want/ have deals) and just stick the rest in a 2 minute montage. It was an entertaining conference, it realy won't do much for Xbox sales, might do for the next Xbox (wich btw evryone knew was in the works, everyone knows the next Playstation is as well and Sony will hint at it, if they werent before they will now), won't help them right now.

Now if you ask me to rate the conference Id probably give it a 9, as I said it was super entertaining. Do I think it does what MS needed it to do ? Not at all. 

Last edited by DakonBlackblade - on 10 June 2018

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Slade6alpha said:
Well yeah will get downplayed no matter what they showed.

"Game's already out on other platforms."
"Game will end up being cancelled."
"Everything was leaked before hand."
"Halo, gears, forza is no surprise at all."
"Too many multiplats."

And that is exactly what is happening at the e3 thread lol



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DonFerrari said:
I don't think there is anything they could do that would change the sales of X1 significantly.

They could buy Sony and rename the PS4.



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Microsoft killed it IMO.



Jranation said:

 

Slade6alpha said:
Well yeah will get downplayed no matter what they showed.

"Game's already out on other platforms."
"Game will end up being cancelled."
"Everything was leaked before hand."
"Halo, gears, forza is no surprise at all."
"Too many multiplats."

And that is exactly what is happening at the e3 thread lol

If it was it wouldnt have so many people rateing it a 8 outta 10 in the thread.
So no thats not exactly what is happending.... .MS are getting props for doing a decent E3 presentation.



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vivster said:
DonFerrari said:
I don't think there is anything they could do that would change the sales of X1 significantly.

They could buy Sony and rename the PS4.

Well, that announcement at an E3 would be funny =p

JRPGfan said:
Jranation said:

And that is exactly what is happening at the e3 thread lol

If it was it wouldnt have so many people rateing it a 8 outta 10 in the thread.
So no thats not exactly what is happending.... .MS are getting props for doing a decent E3 presentation.

You have to let them play the victim card.

 

@The presentation. Many people doesn't know the games revealed are multiplats (and in case of DMC5 the trailer at the end had only X1 and X1X logos, inducing exclusivity thinking), plus 5 new studios (people also doesn't know how big they are or the games). So on perception front that would be a very strong showing, that for next box can be very good.

Also they talking about nextbox gives points on how good an E3 is... but considering they talked about no more generations and released X1X like 8 months ago it can make some damage to current gen sales and also make buyers lose confidence in the next generation... that feeling that if MS isn't selling well in a gen they cut it short, making gamers think on "perhaps I should wait to see if they will have solid sales so the gen will stay" and after "well perhaps I shouldn't buy at the 3rd year because they could release a new console next year".



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Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

obviously not because they announced the game to end all games:

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Yhey have laid out some great plans for the future, now they have to prove that they can execute them



germibobi said:

Sony and Nintendo are going neck and neck with the Switch and Sony, the Xbox One is a distant third. Gamer don't seem to care third party are marginally better on the One X because of the high price point and Sony is just killing at 1 st party game. They already had Detroit and God of War and are showcasing 4 blockbuster 1st party games this year @e3, Microsoft can counter at best with 1-2 exclusive games and some third party content and at this point they need to so much better than Sony to even out the playing field and I'm not sure if they can even be competitive.

First party, second party and exclusives have ALWAYS defined the image of  console.  Because no matter how powerful of a console you have, you cannot have those fore mentioned games on that console.  And this whole "I just like third party games" to justify an Xbox One (not to say that there aren't other reasons that make the One worth the purchase) is a very sorry excuse.  Easily, Sony's console (for example) offers exclusive titles that are also of the same genres as those third parties games.  So you get more game, more choices.



LivingMetal said:
germibobi said:

Sony and Nintendo are going neck and neck with the Switch and Sony, the Xbox One is a distant third. Gamer don't seem to care third party are marginally better on the One X because of the high price point and Sony is just killing at 1 st party game. They already had Detroit and God of War and are showcasing 4 blockbuster 1st party games this year @e3, Microsoft can counter at best with 1-2 exclusive games and some third party content and at this point they need to so much better than Sony to even out the playing field and I'm not sure if they can even be competitive.

First party, second party and exclusives have ALWAYS defined the image of  console.  Because no matter how powerful of a console you have, you cannot have those fore mentioned games on that console.  And this whole "I just like third party games" to justify an Xbox One (not to say that there aren't other reasons that make the One worth the purchase) is a very sorry excuse.  Easily, Sony's console (for example) offers exclusive titles that are also of the same genres as those third parties games.  So you get more game, more choices.

More choices are bad, because they make it harder to decide =p.

Give me the same games every year so I don't need to think about what I want to buy.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."