CrazyGamer2017 said:
As far as I know we also have freedom of speech and religion but over here religion is more of a private thing, it's your personal business, you cannot impose on others your beliefs like that baker did. The gay couple entered a store selling cakes, they did not enter a church, they were very rightfully expecting to be served as ANY other customer in any bakery. The baker interfered with something that has NOTHING to do with the job of baking cakes and that is RELIGION and then DISCRIMINATION that is an offense and I guess in Europe we would tend to not let people get away with offenses. In my opinion the American notion of freedom can have its benefits and it is in and of itself very noble but this is a clear example of freedom abuse. I am free to discriminate you and no one can tell me anything cause I am free. This is plain wrong, period. Ever heard the say: With power comes responsibility? Well I want to add that with freedom also comes responsibility. My conclusion is that we can never truly agree here because you guys are considering constitutional rights whereas I am considering human rights. Both are important, both are part of our world but in a rare case where they come clashing against each other I choose human rights and you guys choose constitutional rights, end of story. Not sure what can be said beyond that. |
they could get any other food in there he did not do a total denial of service, your point is invalid
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) they discriminate EQUALLY everyone. Gays, Straights, Blacks, Whites, Jews etc. If you don't have the required IQ you cannot join and your sexual orientation or skin color is not taken into account. And since we live in a world where low IQ's or even average IQ's are not considered a social group or a minority that needs to be protected, I'd say Mensa does not really violate any rights, both human or constitutional.
