By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Microsoft Discussion - MCV: New Boss of Microsoft Studios on Xbox's First Party Strategy

" we see a lot of interest from our players in more community-driven ongoing franchises." because all the people interested in single-player games have abandoned your platform leaving you with a very large proportion of gamers who are only interested in the social/community/multiplayer stuff. And that's why Xb one has 37.5 million in sales and PS4 has 79M in sales and Switch is probably going to catch up and overtake Xb one possibly before Xb one's replacement is launched.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

Around the Network
DirtyP2002 said:
Bandorr said:

Possibly the worst example imaginable.

That is like going to a candy store and going "who here buys candy?"

Twitch is very much biased toward multiplayer games. it is endless content, no story (so no explanation no talking over it etc), and more importantly it allows the audience to join in with them.

The fact Detroit is even trending despite having any of that easily speaks to the power of single player. And if you want more examples go look into God of war, and Horizon zero dawn.

 

If Twitch is a bad indicator, give me a better alternative for it.

Time spent on these games? Multiplayer games are easily heads and shoulders above single player games.

Sales figures? The best selling games these days have a strong multiplayer focus or are multiplayer only.

 

How about console appeal? GoW set multiple records for the ps4 as a single player game.  SoT fell off the twitch section in what less than a month? With no new information like "most drowned" or "5 million eaten by a kraken".

Then again that is unfair to Detroit that is still in the top 10(or was when I last looked) where as SoD isn't anywhere to be seen. Although it did sell well apparently. Speaking more to that "streaming" a game means very little to how popular it is.

Cuphead did very well across multiple systems.  And of course everyone is expecting RDR2 to dominate.

Last edited by Bandorr - on 05 June 2018

  • Deadliest mass shooting by an individual in US history (10/01/2017)
  • Deadliest high school shooting in US history (02/14/2018)
  • Deadliest massacre of Jews in US history (10/27/2018)
  • Political assassination attempt of TWO former presidents(and 10+ other people)  (10/23/2018 - and beyond)
Bandorr said:
DirtyP2002 said:

 

If Twitch is a bad indicator, give me a better alternative for it.

Time spent on these games? Multiplayer games are easily heads and shoulders above single player games.

Sales figures? The best selling games these days have a strong multiplayer focus or are multiplayer only.

 

How about console appeal? GoW set multiple records for the ps4 as a single player game.  SoT fell off the switch section in what less than a month?

Then again that is unfair to Detroit that is still in the top 10 where as SoD isn't anywhere to be seen. Although it did sell well apparently.

Cuphead did very well across multiple systems.  And of course everyone is expecting RDR2 to dominate.

Haven't you heard that SoT after 5 years will have sold more than GoW?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DirtyP2002 said: 

Sales figures? The best selling games these days have a strong multiplayer focus or are multiplayer only.

As much as I hate it, I must agree with you.

 

Thank God I was able to play that SP only games like Persona 5, Nier,and more... it's just not the same, if I were forced to co-op with other players, read messages and other stuff.



IT's not like they completely given up on SP. State of Decay, Forza, Cuphead, Ori, Super Lucky's Tale, ALL SINGLEPLAYER. With multiplayer as a choice for additional fun with friends.

But SP only titles is a risky investment. If one thing about the game isn't good, then you're instantly out 100 million dollars. Quantum Break was quite the disaster.

So long as their big titles like Gears and Halo got their campaign modes, Xbox users won't care. I'm interested to see how Playground handles Fable 4. Will it be MP only, or SP with MP as a choice. Those are the best games, with SP main priority, and MP there for added fun with friends (CO-OP, PvP).



Around the Network

Most of you are missing the point , it's doesn't have to be one or the other , what MS didn't show in the statement by big booty was a commitment to tackle the areas it is deficient in, now that might be all well and good if Sony was lacking in MP focused games but they aren't, what they have done is decided that 3rd party can handle that side and why push resources into creating games for what is an already crowded market place or spend money buying mp games that are likely tor come to your system anyway or have another similar game fill the void.

Last edited by mjk45 - on 05 June 2018

binary solo said:
" we see a lot of interest from our players in more community-driven ongoing franchises." because all the people interested in single-player games have abandoned your platform leaving you with a very large proportion of gamers who are only interested in the social/community/multiplayer stuff. And that's why Xb one has 37.5 million in sales and PS4 has 79M in sales and Switch is probably going to catch up and overtake Xb one possibly before Xb one's replacement is launched.

I would add to your statement that those community driven franchises are on the PS4 giving players the best of both worlds.



mjk45 said:
Most off you are missing the point , it's doesn't have to be one or the other , what MS didn't show in the statement by big booty was a commitment to tackle the areas it is deficient in, now that might be all well and good if Sony was lacking in MP focused games but they aren't, what they have done is decided that 3rd party can handle that side and why push resources into creating games for what is an already crowded market place or spend money buying mp games that are likely tor come to your system anyway or have another similar game fill the void.

Yep, Sony even said themselves that they invested in strong SP narrative driven games because the rest was well covered by 3rd parties.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."