LethalP said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
You are still acting like Nintendo is in a separate market from Sony and Microsoft. They are all in the same market. The number of gamers who are "Nintendo only" or "Sony only" are extremely small. Most gamers are just gamers. They go to the console with the best games and the biggest library.
Third parties ARE going to bring their games to Switch. To think otherwise is foolish. Switch has a good size customer base, and it is selling the same types of games that are on PS4 and XB1. Third parties ARE going to bring their games. Is power an issue? Hell no. Square Enix released DQXI on the PS4 and the 3DS. Third parties can port a game to a less powerful console if they want and Switch isn't that much weaker than PS4/XB1. I mean people are acting like the Switch has the power of a 3DS. No, it's not that much of a power difference and they could still port games to the 3DS if they really wanted to. Third parties definitely can and will make games for the Switch.
Power is not an issue. A different customer base is not an issue. A low customer base is not an issue. All of the issues that third parties might have had with Wii or Wii U are not there anymore. On the other hand the Switch has one huge advantage that the PS5 doesn't have. It's already on the market. Third parties are not going to hold onto all of their games until 2020-2021 so that Sony can take their sweet time to release PS5. They need to make money in the meantime. If there is only one current console on the market, then it is pretty obvious which console is going to get the third party games.
This is why PS5 is in deep trouble. If they wait, then they are going to get clobbered by the Switch. I mean they could close their eyes and pretend like they aren't competing with Nintendo anymore, but they are in for a rude awakening if they do that. (Although, I personally don't think Sony is nearly as naive as the posters in this thread who are defending the PS5.)
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What sells the Switch? Is it Doom and Skyrim? Or is it Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, Smash, Pokemon? Look at the software: http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/83/nintendo-switch/
If Skyrim can't sell 1 million in a year then what the fuck chance does anything else stand? Do you really think Switch could become the go to platform for AAA gaming? As in Switch being the lead platform for GTA 6, Elder Scrolls 6 and the like? You're tripping.
The reality is, PS4 will keep getting the lions share of third party titles up until the release of the PS5. Once PS5 is on the market, both it and PS4 will get cross gen games for the first year or so just like the beginning of this gen. The Switch will continue not to get CoD, BF, or any major AAA thrid party release outside of stuff that is big in Japan. What motivation does Bethesda have to bring Doom 2 to Switch when the first one can barely sell past 300k?
The PS5 will be fine. Switch'l do nuttin.. It'l do nuttin'.
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One place where we differ is that you put a lot more emphasis on big Western titles than I do. Switch won't get many Western exclusives, but most Western games are going to go multiplat and include Switch anyway. Western developers are already making 5 versions of their games : PC, PS4, PS4 Pro, XB1, XB1X. They might as well make a 6th version for the Switch. These games are already made with scaling up/down in mind, so its not a big deal to scale the games down a little to the Switch. It's definitely worth porting a game over if it's going to sell a million+ like Skyrim. Of course you're not going to full see this until 2019 because most games take 2-3 years to develop. Next week at E3, we'll see maybe 30-50% or so of Western games get a Switch version. Starting next year, the majority of multiplat games will also get a Switch version.
Where Switch will really stand out though is with Japanese exclusives. This is a bigger deal, because Japanese developers don't go multiplat to the extent that Western developers do, so third party exclusives will mostly be coming from Japan. Switch is on track to surpass the PS4's total install base by late 2018/early 2019. This means that Japanese developers see Switch as the main console to develop for. Switch is going to get a lot of Japanese exclusives. Of course, some Japanese games are going to be multiplat, but the ones that aren't are going to be mostly Switch exclusives. Again, since games take at least a couple of years to make then you won't see too much of this next week at E3. Switch will get a few third party exclusives next week, but PS4 will get more. Next year that will reverse, and then Switch will just get more and more exclusives after that.
This is all why Sony needs to release PS5 ASAP. They still aren't going to get many Japanese exclusives, but they'll actually get more Western exclusives. Downgrading from PS4 to Switch is easy. Downgrading from PS5 to Switch is much bigger deal and probably won't happen much.