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Forums - Sales Discussion - Japan sales (Week 21): Media Create/Famitsu/Dengeki - May 21-27, 2018

zorg1000 on 30 May 2018
Megiddo said:
EricFabian said:

Smash and Pokemon

If Pokemon was a traditional core RPG, sure I'd agree with you on that. Smash is strong but last holiday period had Mario Odyssey as well which was strong.

Pokemon is still going to be huge regardless of the changes, maybe not as big as a traditional new generation but still easily 2+ million.

Smash has sold more than 3D Mario on N64, GC, Wii, 3DS & Wii U, literally every system they both released on.



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Megiddo on 30 May 2018

Have they confirmed that Smash is not an updated port yet? If it's a full fledged new title then yeah, that would be big. If it's the Wii U Smash plus Inklings and Link in his BOTW costume and other small changes then I'm not so sure.



KilleyMc on 30 May 2018
zorg1000 said:
KilleyMc said:
Dreadful numbers all over the charts. Now that the 3DS is out of the picture, between the PS4 lack of appeal in Japan and the lack of new games to push the Switch, this has the excitement of a snail race. At least next week BotW Switch will hit a million units sold at retail, which is great, and even if it's far less remarkable the Switch itself will pass the 1 million mark on YTD.

Ya but on the bright side, Switch having consistently decent sales (not great, not poor) in the first half of the year without a whole lot of big software is a good sign that it has alot of potential to have great sales in the 2nd half with big hitters like Yokai, Smash & Pokemon coming.

Oh, I don't doubt that, it won't get close to DS or even 3DS sales totals, but will be able to sell a good number of units in Japan when all is said and done. Still, having 3 ~ 4 high notes in sales on a pretty average year makes for a very boring thing to watch on a weekly basis.



zippy on 30 May 2018
CosmicSex said:
duduspace1 said:
Only positive thing is that slight Switch bump. I think the PS4 scarcity and its assumed effect on the baseline can now be well and truly laid to rest. What the PS4 is doing currently is basically what it is capable of if it barely moved with no noticeable scarcity and 3 new releases topping the SW charts. The PS4 is still up YTD though so still has some life left in it I guess.
Will be interesting to see how close to that Dark souls figures for PS4 that the switch version comes.

You guys are hilarious.  The PS4 is like year 4/5.  Give it a rest already.  It is still shockingly close to Switch YTD and the Switch will not top its sales this year.  

The gap increases week by week, this is without Switch having a massive system seller like Monster Hunter this year thus far



zorg1000 on 30 May 2018
Megiddo said:
Have they confirmed that Smash is not an updated port yet? If it's a full fledged new title then yeah, that would be big. If it's the Wii U Smash plus Inklings and Link in his BOTW costume and other small changes then I'm not so sure.

Like i said last time you asked, every updated port up to this point was clearly stated to be an updated port from the start (Mario Kart, Pokken, Bayonetta, Hyrule Warriors, Donkey Kong, Captain Toad). Since they have not said its an updated port than it most likely means its a new title.

Regardless, pretty much all of the updated ports have or are on track to sell much better than the original version and Smash would be no different.



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TruckOSaurus on 30 May 2018
Megiddo said:
Have they confirmed that Smash is not an updated port yet? If it's a full fledged new title then yeah, that would be big. If it's the Wii U Smash plus Inklings and Link in his BOTW costume and other small changes then I'm not so sure.

There's no solid 100% concrete proof of it but I'd say it's 99% sure it's a new title. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Bayonetta 1+2, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Pokken Tournament, Tropical Freeze all were announced as Wii U ports right out the gate without any mystery surrounding them. Add to that that Smash is receiving the same treatment as BotW and Odyssey as Nintendo's E3 featured game this year and I'd be floored if the game was a simple port.

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Megiddo on 30 May 2018

Oh, I'm not saying an updated Smash 4 port would sell poorly. I just don't think it'd move as many consoles as a brand new Smash game.



TruckOSaurus on 30 May 2018

Another factor that benefits the Switch this coming holiday vs the previous is that there won't be any availability problems.



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zorg1000 on 30 May 2018
KilleyMc said:
zorg1000 said:

Ya but on the bright side, Switch having consistently decent sales (not great, not poor) in the first half of the year without a whole lot of big software is a good sign that it has alot of potential to have great sales in the 2nd half with big hitters like Yokai, Smash & Pokemon coming.

Oh, I don't doubt that, it won't get close to DS or even 3DS sales totals, but will be able to sell a good number of units in Japan when all is said and done. Still, having 3 ~ 4 high notes in sales on a pretty average year makes for a very boring thing to watch on a weekly basis.

I doubt it will ever reach DS level sales (30+ million) but i dont think 3DS level (20-25 million) is out of the question.

But yeah, the week by week sales have been pretty boring this year.



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zorg1000 on 30 May 2018
Megiddo said:

Oh, I'm not saying an updated Smash 4 port would sell poorly. I just don't think it'd move as many consoles as a brand new Smash game.

Sure but regardless, Smash in Sept (rumor)+Pokemon in November is much bigger than 3D Mario in Oct.



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