And yet Fantastic Beasts did only around 100 millions less than the main HP movies. Without even any direct link to HP. The Hobbit movies all reached around 1 billion. You're right, who cares about spin offs?

I don't get why you can't understand that good movies bring more viewers than bad ones. It's pretty simple logic. 

Dude, most of those movies that you list aren't even comparable. For one, the market has completely changed in the past decade. Higher ticket prices, 3d,and bigger foreign markets. 

LOL, and you see why I usually refuse to argue with you.  Not only are the arguments circular, you don't even read people's posts.  Here, reread the bold.

It's really hard to say. I think the reason Rogue One made a billion dollars was because it was the first anthology film. People were curious. As for Solo, Han Solo as a character is very popular, but I think two things were hurting that film's chance. First, a lot of fans felt burned by the Last Jedi. Second, Solo had been getting a lot of bad press on the internet over the last year. The sad thing is while some of that bad speculation was true, it didn't seem to have any negative impact on the film. I personally enjoyed it more than anything else Disney has done with Star Wars. The Force Awakens was pretty much a remake of A New Hope and you could tell what was going to happen and when. Rogue One was okay, but the main character was the least appealing part of the film. I actually liked the idea of the Last Jedi taking the series in a bold new direction, though what they did made absolutely no sense. Also, the previous film is the one that should have gone in a new direction, not the middle film.

People are talking wether Kathleen Kennedy will keep her job or not. I think it actually depends less on the performance of the movies and more on the performance of the merchandise. Toy sales have been on the decline, though I don't think it is clear on wether that has to do with fans feeling dissatisfied by recent Star Wars installments or if it has more to do with the changing demographics. Kids don't play with toys like they used to. Still, toys or no toys, merchandising is the key. Disney relies on that more than they do on there success of the movies.

Not everything is reliant on quality, the last couple of Fast & Furious movies have outgrossed most Star Wars and Harry Potter films by the way ... is that based on quality? 

Solo probably isn't even a "bad" film. I would bet it's in line with a lot of Marvel standalone films (Captain America: The First Avenger is no masterpiece, neither is Iron Man 2 or 3, neither is Thor 2). It's just not an appealing prospect to a lot of people. 

Disney should axe the Obi-Wan and especially the Boba Fett movies. It's too much Star Wars, they're going to oversaturate the brand with too many movies too quickly. Maybe "guy who likes anime and video games" might be into that concept of seeing full films for every other Star Wars character, but how about jock guy who really only cares about Star Wars cuz Yoda and Darth Vader? How about his girlfriend? 

That's where Star Wars will get into trouble, "non-nerds" don't want to see movies about every Star Wars character. You keep releasing this many films this quickly and people are just going to zone out. Focus on IX, get JJ back, focus on Rey/Finn/Poe, that scored them huge box office and huge repeat audience for TFA. 

I like how when faced with explicit evidence of identity politics, your response is to regress to baiting me into a pedantic argument. It feels like vindication.

Equality (or even the movement towards that) will always elicit the response of feeling oppressed by the privileged. You wanna hear someone whine and complain? Put them in 5 star hotels all their life and then ask them to stay in a 3 star hotel for a weekend and right on cue ...

Of course it's not "identity politics" when every character in a movie is white. That doesn't require any special explanation and everyone should just go with that. If a person is black in a major role or something other than the "norm" they must "explain" why they are there. Never mind how many actors of a different ethnicity in Hollywood have been black balled and locked out of roles for decades due to ridiculous casting policies.

Can't have equity and diversity at the same time.

Re-found this interesting fan-edit of E1-3, makes these films look quite nice suddenly in comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJJqYoMxG7o

You can't help but not get the point, and I don't have the patience to wade through your refusal to understand.

I don’t understand the glee some supposed Star Wars fans seem to be going through right now. Star Wars fans only seem happy when sw is doing badly...Weird little basement dwellers. The Last Jedi was just a movie. There’s been bad Star Wars movies before. Get over it or move on, don’t lurk online for the next 10 years gloating about how badly each new Star Wars release is doing at the box office and what a sinking ship it’s become since Disney took over. Sheesh.

On topic....solo underperformed because of its release schedule. They screwed up with that and had to shove it in somewhere unfortunately (for them) too close to the years most anticipated film which I’m pretty sure was made by the same company anyway. Nothing to do with fan backlash. The majority of people living in the real world don’t even know that tlj was any better or worse than any other sw movie. They are brainless punters with no point of view who just go to see any old crap they’ve seen ads for on tv which is what Hollywood is all about. I’m sure when all is said and done solo will still end up around 800 mill at least which is hardly a failure even if it’s less than the op projected.