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Aeolus451 said:

Do you live in a box or are you misrepresenting that on purpose? He called Elisabeth Warren pocahantas because she fibbed about being native american to advance her career. To be fair, there's no proof either way but it's a joke among some politicians about her. It wasn't racist.

My rental unit feels like a box sometimes, but no, technically it's not one.

Saying that the Pocahontas reference was only about Elizabeth Warren the individual is like saying that calling a black person the N word is only about that one person. It's not.

(Incidentally, how do you know she "fibbed about being native american" if, as you also say, "there's no proof either way"?)



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Jaicee said:
Aeolus451 said:

Do you live in a box or are you misrepresenting that on purpose? He called Elisabeth Warren pocahantas because she fibbed about being native american to advance her career. To be fair, there's no proof either way but it's a joke among some politicians about her. It wasn't racist.

My rental unit feels like a box sometimes, but no, technically it's not one.

Saying that the Pocahontas reference was only about Elizabeth Warren the individual is like saying that calling a black person the N word is only about that one person. It's not.

(Incidentally, how do you know she "fibbed about being native american" if, as you also say, "there's no proof either way"?)

I don’t think Pocahontas and the n-word are equal. More like calling a white woman pretending to be black Oprah.



DrDoomz said:
Jaicee said:

My rental unit feels like a box sometimes, but no, technically it's not one.

Saying that the Pocahontas reference was only about Elizabeth Warren the individual is like saying that calling a black person the N word is only about that one person. It's not.

(Incidentally, how do you know she "fibbed about being native american" if, as you also say, "there's no proof either way"?)

I don’t think Pocahontas and the n-word are equal. More like calling a white woman pretending to be black Oprah.

Did anybody ever buy Warren's cookbook 'Pow Wow Chow'? Authentic Native American recipes from the Cherokee tribe.

https://www.amazon.com/Pow-Wow-Chow-Collection-Civilized/dp/9996688445



Jaicee said:
Aeolus451 said:

Do you live in a box or are you misrepresenting that on purpose? He called Elisabeth Warren pocahantas because she fibbed about being native american to advance her career. To be fair, there's no proof either way but it's a joke among some politicians about her. It wasn't racist.

My rental unit feels like a box sometimes, but no, technically it's not one.

Saying that the Pocahontas reference was only about Elizabeth Warren the individual is like saying that calling a black person the N word is only about that one person. It's not.

(Incidentally, how do you know she "fibbed about being native american" if, as you also say, "there's no proof either way"?)

Well, Pocahontas is not the n word to native americans and he didn't try use that character's name in that way. He called her that to make fun of her claiming to be one which is essentially calling her a lier. Trump likes to give nicknames to people to highlight their flaws or something they said or done. To any race, having someone pretend to be one to advance their career is far more insulting. She never provided any sort of proof to counter this. I didn't make any claims with this stuff. I'm just providing context as to why she was called that.



DrDoomz said:
Jaicee said:

My rental unit feels like a box sometimes, but no, technically it's not one.

Saying that the Pocahontas reference was only about Elizabeth Warren the individual is like saying that calling a black person the N word is only about that one person. It's not.

(Incidentally, how do you know she "fibbed about being native american" if, as you also say, "there's no proof either way"?)

I don’t think Pocahontas and the n-word are equal. More like calling a white woman pretending to be black Oprah.

Exactly.

numberwang said:
DrDoomz said:

I don’t think Pocahontas and the n-word are equal. More like calling a white woman pretending to be black Oprah.

Did anybody ever buy Warren's cookbook 'Pow Wow Chow'? Authentic Native American recipes from the Cherokee tribe.

https://www.amazon.com/Pow-Wow-Chow-Collection-Civilized/dp/9996688445

lol I forgot about that shit. 



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Apparently my father is a sub-human savage...



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

I am not agree on how Israel occupying the land, but I am also not agree with how hammas use their citizen and children to protest, that result on death and suffering. As Muslim i just want to remind Muslim (sunni) to follow sunnah dan ulama (Salaf scholar) . Syeik Bin Baz recommending to all Palestinian Muslim living in Jarusalem to leave Jerusalem and do not confront enemy with stone and primitive weapon. it's not a Jihad , because Jihad only permissible if the party has equal power, weapon, technology and the most important thing is The Palestinian muslim lack Tauhid and Sunnah.

Hammas had been working with Iranian syiah , and also many innovation had been practiced in Jerusalem, let us purified Islam from Innovation , and returned to sunnah, because God will help and change human fortun if human change their way of life.

Remember how even the Kafir Quraish left ka'bah to God when Abraha went to destroy Ka'bah. So let God protect Al -Aqsa .



DrDoomz said:
 

I don’t think Pocahontas and the n-word are equal. More like calling a white woman pretending to be black Oprah.

 

Aeolus451 said:
 

Well, Pocahontas is not the n word to native americans and he didn't try use that character's name in that way. He called her that to make fun of her claiming to be one which is essentially calling her a lier. Trump likes to give nicknames to people to highlight their flaws or something they said or done. To any race, having someone pretend to be one to advance their career is far more insulting. She never provided any sort of proof to counter this. I didn't make any claims with this stuff. I'm just providing context as to why she was called that.

No. It was a racist thing to say. If you don't believe me, just find someone who is Native American (it can be anyone) and ask their opinion of the "Pocahontas" refrain from the president. I can pretty much guarantee you they'll tell you something very much like what I just told you.

If you need further proof of what the president's opinion of Native Americans is, as though the fact that he describes Andrew Jackson as his favorite past president were not proof enough, look no further than his oil pipeline policy. The prospect of (among other things) violating the ancestral lands of Native Americans gave Obama pause on approving the construction of, for example, the Keystone XL pipeline. For Trump that was not a problem at all. You can (disingenuously) argue about phrases, but you can't argue about that material reality.

President Trump simply has the same attitude toward First Nations that most Americans did back in the 1950s when he was growing up. Is it any surprise that such a man is also okay with the systematic expulsion of Palestinians from their homes and lands over time as well?



Let's face it if Palestinian were Jewish, Trump would have invaded Israel by now.

Secondly it is interesting to see the camps at the border they all have names from villages that were taken by Israel the last 5-20 years. A bunch of those people protesting were thrown out of their village and land by Israel ofcourse they are pissed.

Basically get thrown out of your land => protest!! => get hurt or get killed and you are named a terrorist.

Today the Israel ambassador basically said the deaths are okay because they were terrorist.   A baby was one of them and the parent with the baby was not even standing close to the protest. 

Then you also invite keyspeakers at the opening who in the past bascially proclaimed that buddhists/muslims/Hindoes are religions/Religion followers of satan and were the reason why sick people like Holebi's were created..X_X..








konnichiwa said:

Let's face it if Palestinian were Jewish, Trump would have invaded Israel by now.

Secondly it is interesting to see the camps at the border they all have names from villages that were taken by Israel the last 5-20 years. A bunch of those people protesting were thrown out of their village and land by Israel ofcourse they are pissed.

Basically get thrown out of your land => protest!! => get hurt or get killed and you are named a terrorist.

Today the Israel ambassador basically said the deaths are okay because they were terrorist.   A baby was one of them and the parent with the baby was not even standing close to the protest. 

Then you also invite keyspeakers at the opening who in the past bascially proclaimed that buddhists/muslims/Hindoes are religions/Religion followers of satan and were the reason why sick people like Holebi's were created..X_X..



None of the Palestinians in Gaza were thrown out of their homes in the last 5-20 years.   Anyone who left what is now Israel for Gaza did so over 70 years ago.  The only people in Gaza who were thrown out of their homes in the last 20 years were the Jews whose communities were destroyed in 2005, leaving Gaza Jew-free except for those few Jews who are being held hostage by Hamas.

Literally no one at these demonstrations in Gaza under the age of 71 was thrown out of their homes by Israel.  The organizers of the protest are very clear that the goal is to destroy Israel and kill as many Israelis as possible.  When tens of thousands of people mass on a country's border, while hundreds of members of a terrorist organization embedded in the protests attempt to destroy the border fence to break into the country with the stated purpose of mass murder, when those terrorists use kites with firebombs attached in addition to throwing firebombs and other explosives, what nation would not respond with force to prevent these people from infiltrating the border?

It is very sad that a baby died as a result of inhaling tear gas (the child was not shot), but why in the world was a baby at such a protest anyway?  The rioters frequently burn thousands of tires for the purpose of creating thick black smoke.  Smoke inhalation is itself extremely deadly for small children (and adults in many house fires).  In addition, evidence is emerging that casts doubt on the whole story about the baby.

Wait until the identities of the majority of fatalities are revealed, and around 45-50 will have been shown to be active Hamas members or members of other terrorist groups and will have been shown to have been engaging in active infiltration attempts at the fence, the throwing of firebombs, and the operating of kites with firebombs.  That's the way it's gone every time until now, and there's no reason to think this time will be any different.