kirby007 said:
Dunno i would return the state back before the second world war |
You mean back to when Jews had no state? It's a valid opinion but then we'd be back to square one, the Jews have no state so what then?
| numberwang said: I see, Liz is the victim here and Trump the bad guy. |
Not simply Elizabeth Warren, but the entire Native American population.
My point was to draw a comparison between Trump's attitude toward the systematic expulsion of Native Americans from their lands (e.g. his self-described favorite past president being Andrew Jackson, who is perhaps best known for the whole 'trail of tears' thing, as another illustration) and his attitude toward the systematic expulsion of the Palestinian people from their lands.
CrazyGamer2017 said:
You mean back to when Jews had no state? It's a valid opinion but then we'd be back to square one, the Jews have no state so what then? |
The solution you just suggested for the "savages" deport them back to europe and the usa etc
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Jaicee said:
Not simply Elizabeth Warren, but the entire Native American population. My point was to draw a comparison between Trump's attitude toward the systematic expulsion of Native Americans from their lands (e.g. his self-described favorite past president being Andrew Jackson, who is perhaps best known for the whole 'trail of tears' thing, as another illustration) and his attitude toward the systematic expulsion of the Palestinian people from their lands. |
You are crafting some feeble narratives in your own head.
kirby007 said:
The solution you just suggested for the "savages" deport them back to europe and the usa etc |
Deport the Jews? I think they have been through that some 75 years ago and it did not really work well for them. Also why would you want to deport the Jews? They have a land and want to live there peacefully if given the chance. Should they go because other people hate them?
If your home neighbor hated you and threatened you and broke your windows etc only because you live there and don't believe the same stuff he believes in, who should leave? You or your neighbor? Or nobody? We all choose different answers to that question and I have made my choice too.
EDIT: I would like to add for clarity's sake that even within a group of people brainwashed by any sort of influence, be it religious or political or any other, that there is always part of that group that will not blindly fall for and follow said influence. In other words it's NEVER 100% of the people in a country or region that will give in to violence, war or any other form of barbarity caused or approved by their society. In other words Palestinians who do not wish for violence and hatred towards Israel should be, regardless of the outcome of this conflict left free to live out their lives in Palestine or even in Israel. I wouldn't imagine Israel going after such people but if they did I would strongly disagree with that.
Last edited by CrazyGamer2017 - on 14 May 2018
numberwang said:
You are crafting some feeble narratives in your own head. |
No, he’s just pointing out an interesting analogy.
Errorist76 said:
No, he’s just pointing out an interesting analogy. |
Please clap!
Seems the brain washing doesn't end in Israel and Palestine, unless a lot of the posters here live there. Change starts with the young yet the old guard on both sides makes sure the stalemate continues. The only solution, mandatory mixed schooling from junior kindergarten. When pigs fly etc.
kirby007 said:
Dunno i would return the state back before the second world war |
lololololololol
Ok. Palestine, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq is now part of the British Empire. I usually assume people arguing about something have at least some knowledge of basic history... I really should stop doing that. Seriously just google "Map of world 1936" it is painted red and blue.
You do realize no Palestinian state ever existed right. Israel>Israel/Judea>Babylon>Persia>Greek>Rome>Byzantine>Caliphates>Ottoman Empire>British Empire>Israel I will at the brief Kingdom of Jerusalem set up by the Crusades existed during the Caliphate phase.
In like 70 A.D. Jerusalem was destroyed by Rome after major revolts. At this point Jews dispersed across the middle east and Europe (Called great Diaspora) after the holocaust the Zionist movement really took fire, and since the land was British territory they simply carved out a piece and made a home for the Jews because of what happened. This is why Islamic countries like to deny the holocaust. Because if it never happened then it delegitimizes the reason the Jews were given the land.
Watch movie "Orient Express" it takes place in this interwar period. It is the only movie I personally have ever seen that shows British ruled Jerusalem.
Last edited by tokilamockingbrd - on 14 May 2018psn- tokila
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| SvennoJ said: Seems the brain washing doesn't end in Israel and Palestine, unless a lot of the posters here live there. Change starts with the young yet the old guard on both sides makes sure the stalemate continues. The only solution, mandatory mixed schooling from junior kindergarten. When pigs fly etc. |
The more diverse, the less trust a society has. Example right here.
http://archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/
Mandatory diversity training increases hostility.
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