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Mr Puggsly said:
Eagle367 said:

It's insane you're quoting Wikipedia here. As far as I know Wikipedia isn't a scholarly islamic website. You have to talk to Islamic scholars about this stuff. Just like you have to confront actual research papers and scientists of the field you want to know about, you have to consult experts of Islamic jurisprudence and their books and see what they say about the laws of Muslim nations. The leaders can bend the laws any way they like and give justifications from fake state scholars. Like Jeff sessions quoted the Bible while separating children. A monster can make anything monstrous. 

But is it inspired by actual Sharia or more of buzzwords to appease ignorant masses like republicans quoting the Bible? You can twist anything into anything right. Manipulating Islam into your vision for rule is easy to do just like any law like how trump used existing laws to separate babies and kids from their parents. A twisted man can do that.

Uh huh, it would be interesting what the middle east would look like if predominately any other religion. All we know for certain is that religion has helped make that region a mess, whether or not there is a misinterpretation throughout the whole fucking region.

There is generally a correlation between trashing republicans and defending Islam. But if the republicans were pushing Sharia law, maybe you'd like them.

I don't care about republican or democrat, only on the views of the person, what they believe and how informed they are(or at least seem to be to me). You are so ill-informed you don't even know the entire middle East does not follow the same set of laws and follows different interpretations of Fiqh. You should know about Sunnis and shias and even within them ancillary groups but also the new stuff like wahabis which is probably the main trouble causer and to whom most terrorists associate with. Also look at Oman and how they are insolated from many problems of the middle East. This entire orseal can be summed upto(like all conflict) miney, power, land, the ignorance of the masses and foreign intervention. Religion is just the excuse. Just like patriotism and national security for USA to invade other nations, CIA blacksites, Guantanamo bay etc



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Eagle367 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Uh huh, it would be interesting what the middle east would look like if predominately any other religion. All we know for certain is that religion has helped make that region a mess, whether or not there is a misinterpretation throughout the whole fucking region.

There is generally a correlation between trashing republicans and defending Islam. But if the republicans were pushing Sharia law, maybe you'd like them.

I don't care about republican or democrat, only on the views of the person, what they believe and how informed they are(or at least seem to be to me). You are so ill-informed you don't even know the entire middle East does not follow the same set of laws and follows different interpretations of Fiqh. You should know about Sunnis and shias and even within them ancillary groups but also the new stuff like wahabis which is probably the main trouble causer and to whom most terrorists associate with. Also look at Oman and how they are insolated from many problems of the middle East. This entire orseal can be summed upto(like all conflict) miney, power, land, the ignorance of the masses and foreign intervention. Religion is just the excuse. Just like patriotism and national security for USA to invade other nations, CIA blacksites, Guantanamo bay etc

It seems like you do care about party, based on irrelevant party bashing.

I didn't say the middle east follows the same set of laws, but generally they take inspiration from Sharia. So you'll see similar bad ideas across many of the countries, but I'm aware some countries much more habitable than others.

I'm aware of the different sects.

I'm not gonna argue about the problems with US. Lets just acknowledge a lot more people coming from middle east to the west, not vice versa. Partly because Sharia and Islam in general helps stimulate a lot of bad ideas.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Eagle367 said:

I don't care about republican or democrat, only on the views of the person, what they believe and how informed they are(or at least seem to be to me). You are so ill-informed you don't even know the entire middle East does not follow the same set of laws and follows different interpretations of Fiqh. You should know about Sunnis and shias and even within them ancillary groups but also the new stuff like wahabis which is probably the main trouble causer and to whom most terrorists associate with. Also look at Oman and how they are insolated from many problems of the middle East. This entire orseal can be summed upto(like all conflict) miney, power, land, the ignorance of the masses and foreign intervention. Religion is just the excuse. Just like patriotism and national security for USA to invade other nations, CIA blacksites, Guantanamo bay etc

It seems like you do care about party, based on irrelevant party bashing.

I didn't say the middle east follows the same set of laws, but generally they take inspiration from Sharia. So you'll see similar bad ideas across many of the countries, but I'm aware some countries much more habitable than others.

I'm aware of the different sects.

I'm not gonna argue about the problems with US. Lets just acknowledge a lot more people coming from middle east to the west, not vice versa. Partly because Sharia and Islam in general helps stimulate a lot of bad ideas.

It's seems you read what I say but you don't read what I say. Where have I bashed a party? And I'm telling you it's not really Sharia but you keep insisting it's Sharia. I'm telling you it's not Islam, it's bad leadership, you keep insisting it's Islam. And I'll tell you why I don't care about demcratdor republican, because I've NEVER even set foot on US soil so I don't care about party affiliation



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