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Helloplite on 03 June 2018
Alby_da_Wolf said:
SpokenTruth said:

Does the EU charge other Non-EU European nations a comparable fee?

There were talks about such fee for all people from outside the passport-free zone, but AFAIK nothing concrete has been done yet about it, up until now, so should such plans get real after Brexit, it would look a lot like retaliation. Also, as the excuse for it is security, regular travelers having to pay it and clandestine immigrants entering without paying it would be quite ridiculous.

What are you talking about mate. Check your facts before misinforming others. Of course there is such a fee. 

 

If you come from a non-EU country into a Schengen regulated country (most EU and wider, except UK), then you have to pay 60 euros to transit (ie, only pass through but not stay in the EU) and to stay for up to 90 days. Students, academics, and NGO workers are exempt as long as they are travelling on professional or academic grounds. If you come from a country that does not require a visa, then the fee, described as "pre-clearence fee" is set at 5 euros.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 03 June 2018
Helloplite said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:

There were talks about such fee for all people from outside the passport-free zone, but AFAIK nothing concrete has been done yet about it, up until now, so should such plans get real after Brexit, it would look a lot like retaliation. Also, as the excuse for it is security, regular travelers having to pay it and clandestine immigrants entering without paying it would be quite ridiculous.

What are you talking about mate. Check your facts before misinforming others. Of course there is such a fee. 

 

If you come from a non-EU country into a Schengen regulated country (most EU and wider, except UK), then you have to pay 60 euros to transit (ie, only pass through but not stay in the EU) and to stay for up to 90 days. Students, academics, and NGO workers are exempt as long as they are travelling on professional or academic grounds. If you come from a country that does not require a visa, then the fee, described as "pre-clearence fee" is set at 5 euros.

Yep, I checked the wrong site. Nevertheless, even afte Brexit is completed and treaties for the successive relationship between UK and EU are ratified, UK would most probably remain amongst countries with simplified access, so anything above that 5 euros fee would be suspect.



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Helloplite on 03 June 2018

This will depend entirely on the kind of deal agreed and is not pregiven. These agreements are usually reciprocal. You need only look at the current rules UK applies - which differ from those of other EU and Schengen members, as it is not a signatory of the Schengen agreement. The UK effectively has its own tarrifs (where most other EU-Schengen members have the tarrifs described above) which are more expensive than those of other EU member states, as well as more strict. For example, the provisions for academics, students and NGO workers are not included in UK immigration laws.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration-rules/immigration-rules-introduction

https://www.gov.uk/standard-visitor-visa

https://www.gov.uk/choose-uk-visit-short-stay-visa

The exception to this is for US Citizens who can travel to the UK with simply their passport - but they cannot work. In order to work they require a proper visa. Exemptions are also provided for any British Commonwealth, Territories and Dependencies (obviously - although India is excluded), and a number of states including Israel, Argentina, and Australia (although some, such as UAE, require EVW authorisation). Long story short, yes it is very possible but not 100% certain, and it will be likely reciprocal.