Lets just split the difference and say it falls somewhere in the vast middleground between niche and mainstream.

If we can agree about carnotaurus than surely we can agree on this.

Oh I didn't mean to sound like some asshole who's just arguing for the sake of it.

I guess at the end of the day it is kind of pointless semantics.

I just don't think it's not popular enough to have a brand new video game sell well. It's more of a matter of circumstances, I think - it's not the source material, just the fact that associated products are rarely beloved. That's all I was trying to say, really. But I don't even like the show, so I'm not trying to inflate it's importance.

But yeah, it doesn't really matter what you call it  

I was going to say i dont think youre an asshole.......then you said you dont like AoT, my opinion has changed.

Just in case anyone missed them from the other NPD thread, here's all

Wow, ps4 is only 7.5mill ahead of ps3?? I thought it was a good bit more than that. 

Well, it is just the U.S. And surprisingly, much of the PS4's lead is due to the holidays:

Overall, the PS4's Q1-Q3 performance in 2015 and 2017 was, respectively, only 3.6% and 6.4% better than what the PS3 did in the same periods in 2008 & 2010. The PS4 did sell 41.1% more units in the first half of 2016 than the PS3 did in the first half of 2009, but the PS4 Slim underperforming substantially compared to the PS3 Slim resulted in the PS4 selling only 12.5% more units for the Q1-Q3 period overall.

Almost half of the PS4's lead over the PS3 in the U.S. comes from the first 14 months on the market, and most of the rest from subsequent holiday periods. Now, that's not a slight against the PS4. It merely shows how the holidays have consumed a much greater portion of the year's sales this generation compared to previous generations.

Based on the numbers I've catalogued, LTD sales as of the end of Q1 of their 5th full year are (rounded to the nearest 10k units):

PS4: 23.87M
XBO: 20.96M
360: 19.72M
PS3: 16.50M

Don't forget that's US only.

PS4 really did giant numbers in Europe (and ROW), mostly because it gobbled up what Nintendo and Microsoft lost from the previous gen. In the US however, XBO is much better selling, so PS4 has to share with it.

Well, it is just the U.S. And surprisingly, much of the PS4's lead is due to the holidays:

Overall, the PS4's Q1-Q3 performance in 2015 and 2017 was, respectively, only 3.6% and 6.4% better than what the PS3 did in the same periods in 2008 & 2010. The PS4 did sell 41.1% more units in the first half of 2016 than the PS3 did in the first half of 2009, but the PS4 Slim underperforming substantially compared to the PS3 Slim resulted in the PS4 selling only 12.5% more units for the Q1-Q3 period overall.

Almost half of the PS4's lead over the PS3 in the U.S. comes from the first 14 months on the market, and most of the rest from subsequent holiday periods. Now, that's not a slight against the PS4. It merely shows how the holidays have consumed a much greater portion of the year's sales this generation compared to previous generations.

Thank you, that helps put things into perspective.

The other user said PS4 is only ~7.5m ahead of PS3, thats nearly 50% better lol