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Pemalite said:
VGPolyglot said:

Actually, no I haven't. The only console I got at launch was the PS4, and that was mainly because I wanted to experience that just once in my lifetime, it's not something I will do again.

So if you aren't buying a console for future potential releases, then what does influence your purchasing decision?

In the end though, it's ultimately irrelevant, your purchasing decisions are not going to be representative of the persons next to you, you aren't the entire market.


HoangNhatAnh said:

Correct, so no need to buy console as long as PC will have all the games of them. I only want to ask you a question: i want to play Xenoblade 2 and next Fire Emblem on the go right now, any option? Also, i have no interest in those pc games you mentioned, i don't want my favorite series die because piracy either, i only pirate game that is not on Nintendo systems

You are changing the goal posts, that is a logical fallacy. You already lost the prior argument that you presented.
The fact of the matter is... Each and every single game that you presented in your argument will be on PC where it will look and run better.

One thing to keep in mind is that... The PC is not just some big beige box that sits in the corner of a room you know, it's everywhere, it's in cars, it's tablets, it's laptops, it's handhelds... You name it, it's not a static form factor, you think it? The PC probably has done it.

And lastly... Another false assertion is that you are chalking emulation up to piracy? Emulation isn't actually piracy.
You aren't duplicating or pirating software.

DonFerrari said:

Sure the main difference between X1X and PS4Pro is the resolution (with the price it makes), and certainly if you play the same game on both and they were correctly ported the one in X1X will look better and you will enjoy more. The only problem on that I pointed is that I basically play majorly (like 90%) exclusives, so for that X1X wouldn't do me much good.

And you made the correct purchasing decision that suits your needs/wants/desires.

I bought the Xbox One X for different reasons, obviously not exclusives as everything is on PC where it looks and runs better anyway.


DonFerrari said:

Sure tech evolution is great and diminishing returns will get to a point that a lot of gamers won't fell a expressive difference between what Nintendo hybrid or MS/Sony top tier console brings on the same gen.

Still a long way from that point though. Doom looks like garbage on the Switch, massive compromise on visuals.
Performance is where it really hit home which impacted upon it's gameplay.

OK, so you can play it while walking in the park and put it in the pocket as well as turn on/off any time you want just by push a button. Again, i want to play them right now: Xenoblade 2 and the next Super Smash Bros, any option?



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Xen said:
The difference is bigger than I expected. They look more than 1 gen apart, in fact.

Virtually two gens apart.

I mean take into consideration the Switch isn't even at par with the base X1 playing Doom.



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VGPolyglot said:

When did I ever say someone was going to buy a Switch to play PC games? I also never mentioned the portability of the Switch to my knowledge.

I've been wrong twice? One, I never said emulation was piracy, and 2, I don't remember ever saying that PC doesn't get Nintendo's exclusives via emulation.

Apologies. Got users mixed up, meant to be in response to HoangNhatAnh.

HoangNhatAnh said:

OK, so you can play it while walking in the park and put it in the pocket as well as turn on/off any time you want just by push a button. Again, i want to play them right now: Xenoblade 2 and the next Super Smash Bros, any option?

There are plenty of PC's that fit that description.

And whether you want to play them or not right now is irrelevant.




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Mr Puggsly said:
Xen said:
The difference is bigger than I expected. They look more than 1 gen apart, in fact.

Virtually two gens apart.

I mean take into consideration the Switch isn't even at par with the base X1 playing Doom.

Perhaps two gens apart technically, but the visuals are IMO not two gens apart - at least in my understanding of two gens, say PS2->PS4.



Pemalite said:
VGPolyglot said:

Actually, no I haven't. The only console I got at launch was the PS4, and that was mainly because I wanted to experience that just once in my lifetime, it's not something I will do again.

So if you aren't buying a console for future potential releases, then what does influence your purchasing decision?

In the end though, it's ultimately irrelevant, your purchasing decisions are not going to be representative of the persons next to you, you aren't the entire market.


HoangNhatAnh said:

Correct, so no need to buy console as long as PC will have all the games of them. I only want to ask you a question: i want to play Xenoblade 2 and next Fire Emblem on the go right now, any option? Also, i have no interest in those pc games you mentioned, i don't want my favorite series die because piracy either, i only pirate game that is not on Nintendo systems

You are changing the goal posts, that is a logical fallacy. You already lost the prior argument that you presented.
The fact of the matter is... Each and every single game that you presented in your argument will be on PC where it will look and run better.

One thing to keep in mind is that... The PC is not just some big beige box that sits in the corner of a room you know, it's everywhere, it's in cars, it's tablets, it's laptops, it's handhelds... You name it, it's not a static form factor, you think it? The PC probably has done it.

And lastly... Another false assertion is that you are chalking emulation up to piracy? Emulation isn't actually piracy.
You aren't duplicating or pirating software.

DonFerrari said:

Sure the main difference between X1X and PS4Pro is the resolution (with the price it makes), and certainly if you play the same game on both and they were correctly ported the one in X1X will look better and you will enjoy more. The only problem on that I pointed is that I basically play majorly (like 90%) exclusives, so for that X1X wouldn't do me much good.

And you made the correct purchasing decision that suits your needs/wants/desires.
I bought the Xbox One X for different reasons, obviously not exclusives as everything is on PC where it looks and runs better anyway.

DonFerrari said:

Sure tech evolution is great and diminishing returns will get to a point that a lot of gamers won't fell a expressive difference between what Nintendo hybrid or MS/Sony top tier console brings on the same gen.

Still a long way from that point though. Doom looks like garbage on the Switch, massive compromise on visuals.
Performance is where it really hit home which impacted upon it's gameplay.

X1X is a good machine, that per MS own decisions with regarding to not make much games themselves and also make games anywhere lost much of the reason to own... and I agree that it may take a long time (probably more than 10 years) but for general market that point will be reached someday.

reviniente said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

If DOOM on the Xbox 1 X have graphics like Switch, would you still have bought it?

Of course not. PC aside, the better looking, better performing version of the game is the way to go. Since this criteria rarely applies to the Switch version of most games (and I'm being generous here), the Switch's only charm is first party and/or exclusives. I drive, so playing on the go is a non-issue for me. I would try, but my insurance premiums might go through the roof.

That is basically my situation where people go all gaga on the portability and I just see as something irrelevant to me, I can't play on commute since I drive. On the work I can only do quick play on cell at most, and at home I rather use the TV so no space for a HH even though I own DS, 3DS, PSP and PSVita.

HoangNhatAnh said:
DonFerrari said:

Sure the main difference between X1X and PS4Pro is the resolution (with the price it makes), and certainly if you play the same game on both and they were correctly ported the one in X1X will look better and you will enjoy more. The only problem on that I pointed is that I basically play majorly (like 90%) exclusives, so for that X1X wouldn't do me much good.

So criticizing Switch graphics on a thread talking about graphics is bashing? In what type of world criticism torwards a company is worst than personal insults?

Yes accuse me of a lot of things and them put your high horse to confess you pirate as long as it isn't on a Nintendo system.

Yes, you bashed the price point of Switch but ignored on purpose it used a small mobile chip then compared it to the newest, biggest home console which is $500. Yeah, sound right. I don't see you criticize Vita price when it is near $300 and still way weaker than ps3, 540p is not even HD. Why don't you criticize Sony for drop vita support as well as keep vita games in JP while ps4 games were bring to the West and don't have any intention for the next successor of vita? 

All my favorite series are on Nin systems, in other words, all are Nintendo first/second party games, of course, i support them because i don't want them disappear,  the other games on other systems, not so much. I play them because curious, i only play a bit and then leave it, why waste money for games i have no desire to finish? They can sell amazing or fail then die off, meaningless to me

You weren't even on this thread when Vita was a thing and this thread isn't even about Vita, so why would I be talking about it? But in case you want to know, I paid 50 bucks for my PSVita mainly to use as my second controller and try out remote play. You can guess I'm not satisfied with the performance and bought another controller (guess what, same price as the Vita). Almost every single person in this forum criticizes Sony for not supporting Vita, again off-topic, your point?

We can see how much love you have for anything outside of Nintendo, still a criticism against Nintendo isn't a personal attack against you nor is even a bash, you are just to emotionally attached to it to even see.

Nintendo launched and market Switch as a console that is portable, so it effectively launched at 300 USD being weaker than X1 and PS4 while costing 50-100 USD more at the time it launched so that is a big issue when we  are discussing the topic on the thread. And that is where the apologies come from, "but it is a HH" to deflect the performance and "but it is a console" to deflect the price, while in reality it have the pros and cons of being both and someone liking or not the proposition is tied to he valuing more the pros or disliking more the cons. Still the defensiveness come from people trying to over value the pros and deny the cons.



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Xen said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Virtually two gens apart.

I mean take into consideration the Switch isn't even at par with the base X1 playing Doom.

Perhaps two gens apart technically, but the visuals are IMO not two gens apart - at least in my understanding of two gens, say PS2->PS4.

I'm referring mostly to the massive resolution boost which is part of the visuals.

A single gen ahead would simply be the resolution X1 and PS4 are achieving. The Switch version of Doom is well below that.

So lets say 1.5 gen ahead!



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I ain't gonna read all those replies, but it's obvious that this pointless comparison started a stupid debate of people putting their perception of acceptable visual on a higher moral ground.(also pretty convenient raise that bar when your favorite company made the crossing)

So multiplat games should be preferable to play the best visually version? where were these people during 7th gen when PC were miles ahead of the twins?

 

Lol, also when you are gonna stop the distortion of generation definition to suit to your diminishing agenda?

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Mr Puggsly said:
Xen said:

Perhaps two gens apart technically, but the visuals are IMO not two gens apart - at least in my understanding of two gens, say PS2->PS4.

I'm referring mostly to the massive resolution boost which is part of the visuals.

A single gen ahead would simply be the resolution X1 and PS4 are achieving. The Switch version of Doom is well below that.

So lets say 1.5 gen ahead!

Wouldnt it be just a 1 generation gap?

Switch is somewhere between PS3/360 & PS4/XBO while Pro/X are between PS4/XBO & PS5/XB4



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Mr Puggsly said:
Xen said:

Perhaps two gens apart technically, but the visuals are IMO not two gens apart - at least in my understanding of two gens, say PS2->PS4.

I'm referring mostly to the massive resolution boost which is part of the visuals.

A single gen ahead would simply be the resolution X1 and PS4 are achieving. The Switch version of Doom is well below that.

So lets say 1.5 gen ahead!

We can agree on that



Still looks like the same gen to me, kinda like Dreamcast vs original Xbox.

Since games on the X have to be able to run on the base Xbone, the core technical makeup is more or less the same, just with a boost to resolution and sometimes other graphical settings, and since the Switch version retains most of the core tech of the Xbone/PS4 version, the overall look is similar, just at much lower settings.