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HoangNhatAnh on 15 April 2018
Pemalite said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Is that PC a portable? Does it have Xenoblade 2/Fire Emblem/Super Smash Bros 2018/Bayonetta 3/SMT V/NMH Travis Strike Again? How many console generations has Sony/MS gone through? :))) 

They are nowhere near close to high end pc 

No it is not portable. Put Portable PC's exist if that is what you desire.
Some older notebooks also allow for upgrade-able MXM GPU's as well.

As for all those games... I know you are trying to be smart and everything... But... The PC will get them all, it's only a matter of when, not if.
And it will look and play better than the original. ;)

But the real question is... Will the Switch get PC exclusives like StarCitizen, Civilization, StarCraft, Company of Heroes, Age of Empires, Total War, Anno, Settlers, Quake, Unreal Tournament... The list goes on?

Checkmate.

Correct, so no need to buy console as long as PC will have all the games of them. I only want to ask you a question: i want to play Xenoblade 2 and next Fire Emblem on the go right now, any option? Also, i have no interest in those pc games you mentioned, i don't want my favorite series die because piracy either, i only pirate game that is not on Nintendo systems

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DonFerrari on 15 April 2018
Pemalite said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Exactly, so you just contradicted yourself about graphic because Xbox 1 X is the best choice for 4K gaming out there, ps4 pro power is nothing compare to it. Well done

The PC makes the Xbox One X look like a calculator.
4k? Please. PC can exceed that, by several multiples.

HoangNhatAnh said:

If a same game on ps4 and xbox 1, what will you play? Heh, so many third party games on Xbox 1 X have better resolution and performance: 

Yeah, i though as long as it have better graphic, you will get it?

There is more to the system than just resolution and performance.

* You have cost. - Xbox One X is more expensive.

* Controllers. - Personal preference, some people prefer Symmetrical analogue sticks, some prefer Asymmetrical. My preference depends on the type of game personally. Fighters = Symmetrical, FPS = Asymmetrical.

* Online network. - Xbox has the advantage here no doubt.

* Amount of games. - Playstation 4 wins with an 18.5% larger library.

* Number of exclusives. - Playstation 4 wins hands down. Can't even remember the last Xbox One exclusive, games on PC don't count.

* Other features like Hard Drive support, Media support and so on can fall in favor of either console. I.E. Internal up-gradable drives in the Playstation 4, 4k Blu-Ray on the Xbox One.


In short, if you own either an Xbox One X or Playstation 4, you would have certainly weighed up the Pro's and Con's of each platform and made an appropriate purchasing decision the meets your own needs/wants and desires. - Thus there is no wrong purchasing choice.

DonFerrari said:

That wasn't his question or point. It was strictly that the graphics doesn't improve the enjoyment. Glad we cleared your pointless attacks.

Considering that the main benefit the Xbox One X brings over the Playstation 4 Pro is resolution... Not everyone is going to actually care if it's the technically superior platform.
Heck, people were proclaiming how amazing Uncharted was last generation visually despite it being rendered at only 720P~. And yet... PC had 4k back in 2001 during the PS2's reign and you didn't see console games magically jump ship.

In the end... The Xbox One X isn't providing visual a generation ahead of the Pro. A purchaser of either platform would likely be happy with either purchase.

DonFerrari said:

That wasn't his question or point. It was strictly that the graphics doesn't improve the enjoyment. Glad we cleared your pointless attacks.

That depends. Graphics can increase immersion which results in an increase in enjoyment.

LudicrousSpeed said:

Unless I’m totally crazy a gaming PC + Doom or a Scorpio + Doom is more expensive than Doom on the Switch he already owns.

I have a spare PC that dates back to the Wii era. It can run Doom better than the Switch. How many console generations has Nintendo gone through? ;)

Those platform costs are cumulative.

Sure the main difference between X1X and PS4Pro is the resolution (with the price it makes), and certainly if you play the same game on both and they were correctly ported the one in X1X will look better and you will enjoy more. The only problem on that I pointed is that I basically play majorly (like 90%) exclusives, so for that X1X wouldn't do me much good.

HoangNhatAnh said:
DonFerrari said:

You are so confuse. What point are you trying to make? You accuse me of fanboyism and not having a HW, then go to say you have then but will only bash if someone attack Nintendo...

There is no attack to Nintendo on this, you are the one attacking and saying non-sense. As VGP said, don't take criticism to companies are an attack to you that you fight back by doing personal attacks.

Have I said Switch is bad or any Nintendo game is bad on this thread???

Who bashed Switch price and it's graphic in this thread? I must wonder

So criticizing Switch graphics on a thread talking about graphics is bashing? In what type of world criticism torwards a company is worst than personal insults?

HoangNhatAnh said:
Pemalite said:

No it is not portable. Put Portable PC's exist if that is what you desire.
Some older notebooks also allow for upgrade-able MXM GPU's as well.

As for all those games... I know you are trying to be smart and everything... But... The PC will get them all, it's only a matter of when, not if.
And it will look and play better than the original. ;)

But the real question is... Will the Switch get PC exclusives like StarCitizen, Civilization, StarCraft, Company of Heroes, Age of Empires, Total War, Anno, Settlers, Quake, Unreal Tournament... The list goes on?

Checkmate.

Correct, so no need to buy console as long as PC will have all the games of them. I only want to ask you a question: i want to play Xenoblade 2 and next Fire Emblem on the go right now, any option? Also, i have no interest in those pc games you mentioned, i don't want my favorite series die because piracy either, i only pirate game that is not on Nintendo systems

Yes accuse me of a lot of things and them put your high horse to confess you pirate as long as it isn't on a Nintendo system.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

curl-6 on 15 April 2018

For me the real takeaway here is how awesome it is that we have reached a point where a handheld system can deliver an experience so close to even the premium console version.

Naturally it looks snazzier on the box that's 10 times bigger and plugged into mains power, but that it's recognizably the same core game is pretty cool.



DonFerrari on 15 April 2018
curl-6 said:

For me the real takeaway here is how awesome it is that we have reached a point where a handheld system can deliver an experience so close to even the premium console version.

Naturally it looks snazzier on the box that's 10 times bigger and plugged into mains power, but that it's the same core game is pretty cool.

Sure tech evolution is great and diminishing returns will get to a point that a lot of gamers won't fell a expressive difference between what Nintendo hybrid or MS/Sony top tier console brings on the same gen.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Pemalite on 15 April 2018
VGPolyglot said:
Pemalite said:

Are you saying you have never bought a Nintendo console for the next Pokemon game?
Or the latest Xbox for the latest Halo?

They are factors in purchasing decisions.

Either way, the PC gets all of Nintendo exclusives, whether Nintendo likes it or not.

Actually, no I haven't. The only console I got at launch was the PS4, and that was mainly because I wanted to experience that just once in my lifetime, it's not something I will do again.

So if you aren't buying a console for future potential releases, then what does influence your purchasing decision?

In the end though, it's ultimately irrelevant, your purchasing decisions are not going to be representative of the persons next to you, you aren't the entire market.


HoangNhatAnh said:

Correct, so no need to buy console as long as PC will have all the games of them. I only want to ask you a question: i want to play Xenoblade 2 and next Fire Emblem on the go right now, any option? Also, i have no interest in those pc games you mentioned, i don't want my favorite series die because piracy either, i only pirate game that is not on Nintendo systems

You are changing the goal posts, that is a logical fallacy. You already lost the prior argument that you presented.
The fact of the matter is... Each and every single game that you presented in your argument will be on PC where it will look and run better.

One thing to keep in mind is that... The PC is not just some big beige box that sits in the corner of a room you know, it's everywhere, it's in cars, it's tablets, it's laptops, it's handhelds... You name it, it's not a static form factor, you think it? The PC probably has done it.

And lastly... Another false assertion is that you are chalking emulation up to piracy? Emulation isn't actually piracy.
You aren't duplicating or pirating software.

DonFerrari said:

Sure the main difference between X1X and PS4Pro is the resolution (with the price it makes), and certainly if you play the same game on both and they were correctly ported the one in X1X will look better and you will enjoy more. The only problem on that I pointed is that I basically play majorly (like 90%) exclusives, so for that X1X wouldn't do me much good.

And you made the correct purchasing decision that suits your needs/wants/desires.

I bought the Xbox One X for different reasons, obviously not exclusives as everything is on PC where it looks and runs better anyway.


DonFerrari said:

Sure tech evolution is great and diminishing returns will get to a point that a lot of gamers won't fell a expressive difference between what Nintendo hybrid or MS/Sony top tier console brings on the same gen.

Still a long way from that point though. Doom looks like garbage on the Switch, massive compromise on visuals.
Performance is where it really hit home which impacted upon it's gameplay.




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VGPolyglot on 15 April 2018
Pemalite said:
VGPolyglot said:

Actually, no I haven't. The only console I got at launch was the PS4, and that was mainly because I wanted to experience that just once in my lifetime, it's not something I will do again.

So if you aren't buying a console for future potential releases, then what does influence your purchasing decision?

In the end though, it's ultimately irrelevant, your purchasing decisions are not going to be representative of the persons next to you, you aren't the entire market.

The games already out, essentially. If we're talking about irrelevance, someone is not going to be buying a PC to be playing Switch games emulated on it either.



reviniente on 15 April 2018
HoangNhatAnh said:
reviniente said:

If DOOM on the Switch didn't have gyro controls, would you still have bought it?

If DOOM on the Xbox 1 X have graphics like Switch, would you still have bought it?

Of course not. PC aside, the better looking, better performing version of the game is the way to go. Since this criteria rarely applies to the Switch version of most games (and I'm being generous here), the Switch's only charm is first party and/or exclusives. I drive, so playing on the go is a non-issue for me. I would try, but my insurance premiums might go through the roof.



Pemalite on 15 April 2018
VGPolyglot said:
Pemalite said:

So if you aren't buying a console for future potential releases, then what does influence your purchasing decision?

In the end though, it's ultimately irrelevant, your purchasing decisions are not going to be representative of the persons next to you, you aren't the entire market.

The games already out, essentially. If we're talking about irrelevance, someone is not going to be buying a PC to be playing Switch games emulated on it either.

That is a False Dichotomy which is a logical fallacy. -  Someone isn't going to buy a Switch to play PC games either.

We could apply the same argument to the Switch and 3DS as well, the Switch doesn't have allot of 3DS exclusives, so what is the point in owning a Switch?

But if we are talking specifically about Doom (Which this thread is about), it can be played mobile on the PC, making that argument entirely redundant anyway.

Fact is... You have been wrong twice now.

And they were:
* Emulation is piracy.
* PC Doesn't get all of Nintendo's exclusives.




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VGPolyglot on 15 April 2018
Pemalite said:
VGPolyglot said:

The games already out, essentially. If we're talking about irrelevance, someone is not going to be buying a PC to be playing Switch games emulated on it either.

That is a False Dichotomy which is a logical fallacy. -  Someone isn't going to buy a Switch to play PC games either.

We could apply the same argument to the Switch and 3DS as well, the Switch doesn't have allot of 3DS exclusives, so what is the point in owning a Switch?

But if we are talking specifically about Doom (Which this thread is about), it can be played mobile on the PC, making that argument entirely redundant anyway.

Fact is... You have been wrong twice now.

And they were:
* Emulation is piracy.
* PC Doesn't get all of Nintendo's exclusives.

When did I ever say someone was going to buy a Switch to play PC games? I also never mentioned the portability of the Switch to my knowledge.

I've been wrong twice? One, I never said emulation was piracy, and 2, I don't remember ever saying that PC doesn't get Nintendo's exclusives via emulation.



HoangNhatAnh on 16 April 2018
DonFerrari said:
Pemalite said:

The PC makes the Xbox One X look like a calculator.
4k? Please. PC can exceed that, by several multiples.

There is more to the system than just resolution and performance.

* You have cost. - Xbox One X is more expensive.

* Controllers. - Personal preference, some people prefer Symmetrical analogue sticks, some prefer Asymmetrical. My preference depends on the type of game personally. Fighters = Symmetrical, FPS = Asymmetrical.

* Online network. - Xbox has the advantage here no doubt.

* Amount of games. - Playstation 4 wins with an 18.5% larger library.

* Number of exclusives. - Playstation 4 wins hands down. Can't even remember the last Xbox One exclusive, games on PC don't count.

* Other features like Hard Drive support, Media support and so on can fall in favor of either console. I.E. Internal up-gradable drives in the Playstation 4, 4k Blu-Ray on the Xbox One.


In short, if you own either an Xbox One X or Playstation 4, you would have certainly weighed up the Pro's and Con's of each platform and made an appropriate purchasing decision the meets your own needs/wants and desires. - Thus there is no wrong purchasing choice.

Considering that the main benefit the Xbox One X brings over the Playstation 4 Pro is resolution... Not everyone is going to actually care if it's the technically superior platform.
Heck, people were proclaiming how amazing Uncharted was last generation visually despite it being rendered at only 720P~. And yet... PC had 4k back in 2001 during the PS2's reign and you didn't see console games magically jump ship.

In the end... The Xbox One X isn't providing visual a generation ahead of the Pro. A purchaser of either platform would likely be happy with either purchase.

That depends. Graphics can increase immersion which results in an increase in enjoyment.

I have a spare PC that dates back to the Wii era. It can run Doom better than the Switch. How many console generations has Nintendo gone through? ;)

Those platform costs are cumulative.

Sure the main difference between X1X and PS4Pro is the resolution (with the price it makes), and certainly if you play the same game on both and they were correctly ported the one in X1X will look better and you will enjoy more. The only problem on that I pointed is that I basically play majorly (like 90%) exclusives, so for that X1X wouldn't do me much good.

HoangNhatAnh said:

Who bashed Switch price and it's graphic in this thread? I must wonder

So criticizing Switch graphics on a thread talking about graphics is bashing? In what type of world criticism torwards a company is worst than personal insults?

HoangNhatAnh said:

Correct, so no need to buy console as long as PC will have all the games of them. I only want to ask you a question: i want to play Xenoblade 2 and next Fire Emblem on the go right now, any option? Also, i have no interest in those pc games you mentioned, i don't want my favorite series die because piracy either, i only pirate game that is not on Nintendo systems

Yes accuse me of a lot of things and them put your high horse to confess you pirate as long as it isn't on a Nintendo system.

Yes, you bashed the price point of Switch but ignored on purpose it used a small mobile chip then compared it to the newest, biggest home console which is $500. Yeah, sound right. I don't see you criticize Vita price when it is near $300 and still way weaker than ps3, 540p is not even HD. Why don't you criticize Sony for drop vita support as well as keep vita games in JP while ps4 games were bring to the West and don't have any intention for the next successor of vita? 

All my favorite series are on Nin systems, in other words, all are Nintendo first/second party games, of course, i support them because i don't want them disappear,  the other games on other systems, not so much. I play them because curious, i only play a bit and then leave it, why waste money for games i have no desire to finish? They can sell amazing or fail then die off, meaningless to me