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Forums - Politics Discussion - Where do you stand in the Kuril Islands dispute?

DonFerrari said:
VGPolyglot said:

Are you confusing me with the other person you responded to?

As for where I stand, the fact of the matter is this: the Soviet Union, and later Russia, have had control over the islands for over 70 years, and Japan has managed to become the world's second largest economy despite that.

 

was posted by you on the OP wasn't it?

Yeah, isn't that essentially the same thing, just worded differently? I'm saying that Russia has had control of them for over 70 years, and thus it doesn't seem like they're going to give them up, and since Japan has become the world's third largest economy (second largest at one point), I don't see them considering the islands necessary enough to go into war/conflict over them.



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VGPolyglot said:
DonFerrari said:

As for where I stand, the fact of the matter is this: the Soviet Union, and later Russia, have had control over the islands for over 70 years, and Japan has managed to become the world's second largest economy despite that.

 

was posted by you on the OP wasn't it?

Yeah, isn't that essentially the same thing, just worded differently? I'm saying that Russia has had control of them for over 70 years, and thus it doesn't seem like they're going to give them up, and since Japan has become the world's third largest economy (second largest at one point), I don't see them considering the islands necessary enough to go into war/conflict over them.

If you just ment that as they not going for war over it that is almost moot, they also didn't go for several of their bikering with China. But it seemed more like you were saying that it was pointless for them to even want the islands because they are already a rich country.



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DonFerrari said:
VGPolyglot said:

Yeah, isn't that essentially the same thing, just worded differently? I'm saying that Russia has had control of them for over 70 years, and thus it doesn't seem like they're going to give them up, and since Japan has become the world's third largest economy (second largest at one point), I don't see them considering the islands necessary enough to go into war/conflict over them.

If you just ment that as they not going for war over it that is almost moot, they also didn't go for several of their bikering with China. But it seemed more like you were saying that it was pointless for them to even want the islands because they are already a rich country.

Yeah, I'm saying that there's a lot for them to risk by trying to get those islands back, including relations with Russia for islands that they aren't realistically going to get back in the first place.



VGPolyglot said:
DonFerrari said:

If you just ment that as they not going for war over it that is almost moot, they also didn't go for several of their bikering with China. But it seemed more like you were saying that it was pointless for them to even want the islands because they are already a rich country.

Yeah, I'm saying that there's a lot for them to risk by trying to get those islands back, including relations with Russia for islands that they aren't realistically going to get back in the first place.

The route of buying the islands would make more sense then forcing a war anyway. But we do know that at least to Japan the sealine because of almost doubling the reach of their lands would be more important than the landmass anyway.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
VGPolyglot said:

Yeah, I'm saying that there's a lot for them to risk by trying to get those islands back, including relations with Russia for islands that they aren't realistically going to get back in the first place.

The route of buying the islands would make more sense then forcing a war anyway. But we do know that at least to Japan the sealine because of almost doubling the reach of their lands would be more important than the landmass anyway.

Well, Russia would have to be willing to sell, I don't know if they would want to though, for Alaska it was fear of the British taking it over with no compensation that they sold it, I don't think they have the same fear with the Kuril Islands.



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VGPolyglot said:
DonFerrari said:

The route of buying the islands would make more sense then forcing a war anyway. But we do know that at least to Japan the sealine because of almost doubling the reach of their lands would be more important than the landmass anyway.

Well, Russia would have to be willing to sell, I don't know if they would want to though, for Alaska it was fear of the British taking it over with no compensation that they sold it, I don't think they have the same fear with the Kuril Islands.

Also I don't think they would, but would still be prefereable than war.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
HollyGamer said:
Let Russia have it , they need more space to live, and they have been suffered on having small country.

Apparently Japan having a good economical situation makes the need for space zero, while the immense underpopulated landmass of Russia will become rich with the islands.