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I wish I could have got into it more. I played Galaxy 1 and 2 around the time I got it, and rather than getting me in the mood for Mario Odyssey, they actually served to make me feel a little underwhelmed. The experience isn’t as grand, varied, or as interesting as the Galaxy games IMO; the level design is a step down from the Galaxy games. Another issue is the size of the game, it is smaller and shorter than the Galaxy titles; difficulty is substantially less; a big and it is not nearly as rewarding. It’s closest to Mario Galaxy in how it feels but, despite the new features, still comes off as a reduced experience; like the Mario team is still holding back.

Its popularity is largely due to the fact that it’s the first true 3D Mario game in 7 years. I am not saying there’s no room for a 3D Land-type, only that they are a different experience..

Some of the new features are interesting, and it is still a very good game; but IMO it’s not quite the 3D Mario successor I was looking for.

 

In terms of sales, those numbers are off. Nintendo says Galaxy is the highest selling 3D Mario game. Odyssey is the fastest, though. This is a trend we’ve been seeing in multiple franchises on Switch.

Last edited by Jumpin - on 18 March 2018

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I predict it will be #1 by the end.



Jumpin said:

I wish I could have got into it more. I played Galaxy 1 and 2 around the time I got it, and rather than getting me in the mood for Mario Odyssey, they actually served to make me feel a little underwhelmed. The experience isn’t as grand, varied, or as interesting as the Galaxy games IMO; the level design is a step down from the Galaxy games. Another issue is the size of the game, it is smaller and shorter than the Galaxy titles; difficulty is substantially less; a big and it is not nearly as rewarding. It’s closest to Mario Galaxy in how it feels but, despite the new features, still comes off as a reduced experience; like the Mario team is still holding back.

Its popularity is largely due to the fact that it’s the first true 3D Mario game in 7 years. I am not saying there’s no room for a 3D Land-type, only that they are a different experience..

Some of the new features are interesting, and it is still a very good game; but IMO it’s not quite the 3D Mario successor I was looking for.

 

In terms of sales, those numbers are off. Nintendo says Galaxy is the highest selling 3D Mario game. Odyssey is the fastest, though. This is a trend we’ve been seeing in multiple franchises on Switch.

Yeah the Galaxy games were very good. I remember thinking Galaxy was amazing and then Galaxy 2 was even a bit better, even though the wow factor was gone since it was the same experience just better than Galaxy. I don't think Odyssey is necessarily better than the Galaxy games, but it does go back to the Mario 64 style gameplay with big platformer worlds. Whether that is better or worse than tons of tiny planets is up to each person to decide.

Mario Odyssey is a big game though. I'm 55 hours in and still trying to get the last bits done (granted I beat the game I think after about 25 hours). And the cappy mechanic is the coolest gameplay mechanic that's been added to Mario since Yoshi 27 years earlier. Cappy adds platformer elements and lets you control enemies which adds a whole new level of play. When I first saw the video that showed you can take over enemies with Cappy I was blown away and right then I got very excited about getting Mario. Odyssey is a large, gorgeous, incredibly well made Mario that introduces awesome new gameplay mechanics, has a ton to come back to after you beat the game with awesome diverse interesting worlds. I often feel that Nintendo games are a bit too easy, and that continues with Odyssey, but that would be my only gripe in an otherwise phenomenal game. It may or may not be better than the galaxy games, but it is no surprise that it is killing it in sales.



Jeezus, 8m on a 15m installbase. Assuming the Switch cotinues to sell awesomely and Odyssey retains a high attach rate, I don't think 20m is out of the question at all.



i’m sure it’s already been mentioned but it’s taken Odyssey 12 months to get 7+m. It took Mario 64 the life of the N64 to get 11m. It’s pretty easy to see that Odyssey will surpass Mario 64.



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Yassgragra said:

i’m sure it’s already been mentioned but it’s taken Odyssey 12 months to get 7+m. It took Mario 64 the life of the N64 to get 11m. It’s pretty easy to see that Odyssey will surpass Mario 64.

Do you mean five months?



Yassgragra said:

i’m sure it’s already been mentioned but it’s taken Odyssey 12 months to get 7+m. It took Mario 64 the life of the N64 to get 11m. It’s pretty easy to see that Odyssey will surpass Mario 64.

Odyssey released in late October. Nintendo’s figures for late December put Odyssey at 9m shipped. So it only took it 2 months to reach near Mario 64 lifetime sales. Impressive.



Bet with Teeqoz for 2 weeks of avatar and sig control that Super Mario Odyssey would ship more than 7m on its first 2 months. The game shipped 9.07m, so I won

Ha! Legit what I meant. Thanks for making my case stronger 😂



CaptainExplosion said:
flashfire926 said:
Mario Odyssey will be the bestselling 3D-Mario ever, for sure.

I appreciate your enthusiasm, but even after all these years, none of them have exceeded the lifetime sales Super Mario 64 had.

Considering the success of the Switch and Odyssey being a mush have, I say it will take Super Mario 64.