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Forums - Politics Discussion - Delaware students can now choose their own race (Yes, RACE!) under new regulations.

vivster said:
barneystinson69 said:

Can I identify as a black attack helecopter? I mean I was born that way... xd

You can if you want to spend your life in prison. So you better identify as white attack helicopter.

To be fair if you've got guns and you "attack" I don't think being white is going to save you...

Besides, either way there's no time spent in prison. You'll be shot dead in the street long before that



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Ka-pi96 said:
Flilix said:

'Race', just like any form of subdivision of living creatures, is a human construction. There's a scientific consensus that all humans that aren't extinct belong to the same species and the same race.

You're kidding right? There's pretty clear biological evidence of multiple human races. Don't want to call them races? Fine, come up with another word. The fact remains that there are biological differences between different groups of people though.

As Flilix said, there are biological differences between individual humans too, even siblings. So, do siblings count as different races?



VGPolyglot said:
Ka-pi96 said:

You're kidding right? There's pretty clear biological evidence of multiple human races. Don't want to call them races? Fine, come up with another word. The fact remains that there are biological differences between different groups of people though.

As Flilix said, there are biological differences between individual humans too, even siblings. So, do siblings count as different races?

It's possible. A few generations back in my family there was a caucasian brother and a black sister. Technically they were only half siblings, but they were still siblings nonetheless.

And of course there are biological differences between individual people, we're not all clones! But there are still clear differences in the genes related to skin pigmentation and skeletal structure between different groups of people. There's other differences too, but those ones are the most recognisable.



Ka-pi96 said:
VGPolyglot said:

As Flilix said, there are biological differences between individual humans too, even siblings. So, do siblings count as different races?

It's possible. A few generations back in my family there was a caucasian brother and a black sister. Technically they were only half siblings, but they were still siblings nonetheless.

And of course there are biological differences between individual people, we're not all clones! But there are still clear differences in the genes related to skin pigmentation and skeletal structure between different groups of people. There's other differences too, but those ones are the most recognisable.

So, what is your argument supposed to be then? There are differences between groups, yes. But what is that supposed to insinuate?



VGPolyglot said:
Ka-pi96 said:

It's possible. A few generations back in my family there was a caucasian brother and a black sister. Technically they were only half siblings, but they were still siblings nonetheless.

And of course there are biological differences between individual people, we're not all clones! But there are still clear differences in the genes related to skin pigmentation and skeletal structure between different groups of people. There's other differences too, but those ones are the most recognisable.

So, what is your argument supposed to be then? There are differences between groups, yes. But what is that supposed to insinuate?

I'm not insinuating anything. I'm stating that different groups of people have different racial characteristics.



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VGPolyglot said:
Ka-pi96 said:

You're kidding right? There's pretty clear biological evidence of multiple human races. Don't want to call them races? Fine, come up with another word. The fact remains that there are biological differences between different groups of people though.

As Flilix said, there are biological differences between individual humans too, even siblings. So, do siblings count as different races?

Saying something along the lines of "because siblings don't count as races therefore races don't exist" is absurd. 



Ka-pi96 said:
VGPolyglot said:

So, what is your argument supposed to be then? There are differences between groups, yes. But what is that supposed to insinuate?

I'm not insinuating anything. I'm stating that different groups of people have different racial characteristics.

We're such mixed-race these days that there is not even such thing as a pure race anymore, so we can't even properly group people into specific races.



Ka-pi96 said:
VGPolyglot said:

As Flilix said, there are biological differences between individual humans too, even siblings. So, do siblings count as different races?

It's possible. A few generations back in my family there was a caucasian brother and a black sister. Technically they were only half siblings, but they were still siblings nonetheless.

And of course there are biological differences between individual people, we're not all clones! But there are still clear differences in the genes related to skin pigmentation and skeletal structure between different groups of people. There's other differences too, but those ones are the most recognisable.

Would you consider a Swedish person from Germanic origin and an Italian person from Romanic origin, to be different races?



VGPolyglot said:
Ka-pi96 said:

It's possible. A few generations back in my family there was a caucasian brother and a black sister. Technically they were only half siblings, but they were still siblings nonetheless.

And of course there are biological differences between individual people, we're not all clones! But there are still clear differences in the genes related to skin pigmentation and skeletal structure between different groups of people. There's other differences too, but those ones are the most recognisable.

So, what is your argument supposed to be then? There are differences between groups, yes. But what is that supposed to insinuate?

False equivalency. The biological and genetic differences between  humans of the same race are extremely small compared to those of different races.

Might as well call yourself a galaxy because you are also made up of atoms.



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vivster said:
VGPolyglot said:

So, what is your argument supposed to be then? There are differences between groups, yes. But what is that supposed to insinuate?

False equivalency. The biological and genetic differences between  humans of the same race are extremely small compared to those of different races.

Might as well call yourself a galaxy because you are also made up of atoms.

Again, as I said there's not even really pure races anymore because of many, many years/decades/centuries/millennia/etc. of interracial mixing.