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Forums - Politics Discussion - Obama's presidential portrait revealed (with controversy)

 

Portrait good?

Yes 12 38.71%
 
No 19 61.29%
 
Total:31
SuperNova said:
Aeolus451 said:

He also paints other interesting things into his paintings. 😽

Those are pretty clearly in reference to this painting by Carravagio:

It's Judith beheading Holofernes for raping her. Make of that what you will.

 

I actually like this guys style and I also like the leafy garden paradise theme he went with for Obama. I could go full art analysis and why all of this is probably significant, but all in all I like that one. I don't think he did Michelle justice though.

As for the sperm....you had an entire vine background to work with and you decide to go with wierd buldge on his face instead? Come on!

 

So I like the Michelle painting better (although I might have a hard time guessing it was of her if I didn't know) but at least you can tell who Barack is from the painting.  ... Shit I guess it was 2 different artists that painted the former President and first lady.

 

As for it clearly being in reference to the Judith painting it would seem more a direct take on it if the person beheaded was male wouldn't it?... As stated earlier in the thread I am not big into art so I am looking to be educated.  I know what I like and I don't really dig this guy's style (the backgrounds are just too busy) but I can recognize he has talent.



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palou said:
Aeolus451 said:

I never accused you of being racist but you're making excuses and doing alot of mental gymnastics to avoid acknowledging that those paintings are racist. You're giving this guy alot of undue leniency. That's what I mean by trying to progressive your way out of this. I mean you brought up Nirvana's "Rape me" and paintings of vaginas as something comparative to these paintings.

I bet that some of the recent posters will have a similar response as you, go thru the same mental gymnastics as you and won't call this shit for what it is or unlike you, they just ignore it. There's no positive interpretation of this kind of shit. An artistic license doesn't excuse racist behavior. There's alot of songs, adverts and artwork that doesn't get any leeway like this because it's art.

If Trump hired a white artist to do a presidential portrait of him and his wife then it turns out that the artist painted paintings of white women with a cocky look on their face while holding a knife and the severed head of a black woman, how do you think that would realistically play out?

Obama should have looked into this asshat beyond his skin color and that he can do a fairly decent portrait of black people before hiring him. 

It is, for the very least, relevant as context that these works are within a larger series of works of recreations of historical paintings that replace the main subjects with black individuals. I think, with that in mind, it's somewhat believable that the intention of the artist in the creation of the work was innocent.

 

 

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QmADVHQt7_0/T5i5LBFMyaI/AAAAAAAAPdE/DpnIGX8GkyU/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/DSC_0549.JPG

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Jacques_Louis_David_-_Bonaparte_franchissant_le_Grand_Saint-Bernard%2C_20_mai_1800_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg/220px-Jacques_Louis_David_-_Bonaparte_franchissant_le_Grand_Saint-Bernard%2C_20_mai_1800_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg

 

 

http://popcurious.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/3Charles.jpg

 

 

http://www.irequireart.com/i/artwork/882-image-1600-1600-fit.jpg

http://www.artnet.com/WebServices/images/ll773396llgRq2CfDrCWBHBAD/kehinde-wiley-the-three-graces,-1881-1956.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Rapha%C3%ABl_-_Les_Trois_Gr%C3%A2ces_-_Google_Art_Project_2.jpg/300px-Rapha%C3%ABl_-_Les_Trois_Gr%C3%A2ces_-_Google_Art_Project_2.jpg

 

 

https://rfc.museum/images/stories/BtC/Wiley-K/Wiley-K_TriplePortraitOfCharles_I.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Triple_portrait_of_Charles_I.jpg/918px-Triple_portrait_of_Charles_I.jpg

http://nymag.com/arts/art/rules/kehinde-wiley-2012-4/

'But one already stands out: a tall, elegant black woman in a long blue dress—the canvas is enormous, eight feet by ten feet—calmly staring down the viewer. In one hand, she holds a knife. In the other, a cleanly severed brunette female head. “It’s sort of a play on the ‘kill whitey’ thing,” Wiley says.'

 

Nope - he's racist.



BraLoD said:
This guy is sick.
Throw this one fire and hire a professional next time.

I think Obama hired this guy intentionally. His true colours are showing now. No wonder he wasn't 'the great racial healer'.



I think it should be a portrait of him along with michele beheading a white woman. Would that be considered offensive?